Name Future Warjacks!

[RetributionBomb]

So Retribution Warjacks have a theme of being named aft er mythical creatures! So lets all take a shot at figuring out what the next set of jacks will be named.

I think there will be a heavy called the ****atrice, which will be a better form of the Gorgon. Also a Heavy called the Basilisk could also fill the same roll.

I also think we might see a speedy light called the Wyvern.

[Haight]

My guess it will probably stick to relatively roman / greek naming conventions as a theme.

In that light, Scylla, Basilisk, Minotaur, Titan, Medusa, ****atrice (if that gets through the filter i'll be shocked), etc could all be possiblilities.

Personally, i'd love to see a huge burly melee character jack called "Beorn", but that might be subject to some infringement suits. ;)

[Mephaine]

Well I agree on most but the most obvious for me is Dragon hehe. However me and my cousin are betting if they do that it will be like some blessed Myrmi by Scyrah so thats how we will get our first named jack per say. Still to be exact here is what I wouldn't mind.

Basilisk (as per mentioned): A Light Myrmi with perhaps some range attack with a Frost effect to represent the whole stone stare. Also Pathfinder. So overall I reckon a nice 5 pt jack.

Dragon: A Heavy Myrmi. Simple this being perhaps a 12 pointer. I would imagine say two Open Fist style attacks, slightly heavy armour than its counterparts and of course some Fire Breathe style attack.

Ideally I would hope
S:11
Arm:20
Fire Breath
2 Open Fists (similar to Force Fists) but claws. Perhaps add critical Fire.

Still this is just silly ideas but be awesome cause the Dragon as I said I would hope as our named Myrmi so make sense he be a bit tougher.

[Typhael]

My best guess is that, given the horrors that were wrought on the elves by a dragon, they may avoid that particular designation. :)

[Mephaine]

Who knows. Sadly I am trying to catch up with the fluff so my knowledge on Dragons is vague due to my noobness. Still who knows what will happen. Tbh despite the whole myrmi talk I reckon units will take a higher priority in Retri due tot he fact Myrmi's are new tech.

[Loveless]

In that light, Scylla, Basilisk, Minotaur, Titan, Medusa, ****atrice (if that gets through the filter i'll be shocked), etc could all be possiblilities.


Hmmm...

Scylla and Medusa would be good names for character Myrs, as Medusa is a specific Gorgon and Scylla is pretty close to a specific Hydra (multiple headed sea beastie and all ;) )

Basilisk and Titan may be off-limits as we already have a faction that uses the real things (Skorne, of course). This could take Cyclops off the table as well.

C-o-c-k-atrice (take that, filter!) would be sensible, as would Minotaur. We could maybe see a Harpy, maybe a Sphinx (I'm thinking of the Thebian version here), Salamander, Wyvern, maybe even a Lindworm - it all depends on how far the mythical creature angle extends outside of Greco-Roman mythos.

[FranzGrenstein]

It seems like the jacks have names describe what they do.
Griffon: a flying attacking beast; jack is a high mobility combat oriented jack.
Gorgon: were mythological sisters Medusa being the most famous of them able to turn men to stone with her gaze; the jack locks down (turns to stone) things in it’s combat range until you deal with it.
Chimera: a beast made of many parts of multiple animals; the jack is a arc node it can do what ever is called of it.
Phoenix: A fire based beast that would rise from its ashes; a fire based jack, that’s field rises from any damage.

Here are some of my favorite names

Pegasus (Maybe a heavy with the same generator field as the griffon.)
Scylla: (Perhaps a named or unique jack.)
Spectre: (Perhaps a light jack with a field generator provides stealth.)
Centaur: (A jack purpose designed for CQB no ranged weapons.)
Echidna: (This could be a named or unique jack.)
Minotaur: (Perhaps a slambot of some sort.)
C-o-c-k-atrice: (A heavy w/ reach and the gorgon’s force lock)
Cerberus: ( A light of some sort)
Talos: (Although you might have the same naming problem by the same company.)

These are just some things I could think off the top of my head.

Do a google search for “greek mythology monsters” and you can come up with more names.

[Jice_]

This sounds like a Job for HOMM3. (Heros of Might and Magic 3)

Tower: Gargoyle, Golem, Genie, Naga
Rampart: Centaur, Pegasus, Unicorn
Fortress: Gnoll, Basilisk, Wyvren
Strongold: Roc
Inferno: Efreet, Devil, Cerberus
Dungeon: Harpy, Medusa, Beholder, Minotaur (My Fave!), Manticore

Others might include: Djinn, Colossus, Gremlin, Succubus, Venasaur.

[CeltKhan]

I think, in this case, the Chimera is named less for the hybrid, kitbashed monster and more for the modern connotation, which is an ephemeral/insubstantial creature.

I wouldn't mind seeing the Etna, or the Pegasus. I think the Basilisk, Cyclops, Titan, and Dragon are out for reasons already mentioned.

For other ideas, though, I'm certain PP already has http://www.pantheon.org/ bookmarked for more names. :p

[FranzGrenstein]

Thinking about it, PP might use Echidna for a Legion named beast, since Echidna and Typhon, spawned a lot of the monsters. We might also have to take Scylla off the table as well, it sounds like something Legion would field.

[xarrul]

I really would like to see the Centaur. A four legged artillery Jack. It would give us something besides the stormfall to go with, or give it a lance and make it a slambot. Just a cavalry Jack would be fairly unique and wouldn't break the flavor of ret.

I have been trying to figure out how you would come up with other ways to represent a flying jack. (Pegasus) Ret jacks are lighter by comparison to other factions. So maybe a light jack with acrobatics... I say this some what as a joke because every time I think Jumping Jack I feel compelled to poke myself in the eye.

[RetributionBomb]

After seeing someone say Efreet I thought it be really cool if we had Jacks named after Final Fantasy Summons.

Shiva
Ifirit
Bahamut

So on and So forth.

[Jice_]

I have been trying to figure out how you would come up with other ways to represent a flying jack. (Pegasus)

Well considering Griffons, Phoenix, Some Chimera's, and Manticore's fly, I don't think that aspect of thoes creatures came up alot at naming time.


After seeing someone say Efreet I thought it be really cool if we had Jacks named after Final Fantasy Summons.

When trying to be original, it usually helps not to steal copywrited material for naming conventions.

[RetributionBomb]

Well considering Griffons, Phoenix, Some Chimera's, and Manticore's fly, I don't think that aspect of thoes creatures came up alot at naming time.



When trying to be original, it usually helps not to steal copywrited material for naming conventions.

Thing is though, I believe that the name of the Final Fantasy Summons were taken from myths and religions. I know Shiva is one, and Bahamut is used in D&D as well as FF.

[paradogmatic]

Yeah -- The FF Summons mentioned don't have original names; they are mythological in some form or another -- though they aren't 'beasts' per se like the creatures used thus far for Retribution Jacks.

I'd like to see a Cerberus -- a Heavy w/ Shield Guard or some other method of protecting models / units. I doubt it would get the same power field as a Gorgon as that on a Heavy would be OP.

Another thing to keep in mind is if the other Jacks that eventually show up are House Vyre ( or someone else ) -- they may have a different naming convention.

[FranzGrenstein]

If memory serves, Shiva is an Indian god (I am 85-90% sure of Indian origin.)

Let’s just stick with category that the writers at PP have provided us and keep to the predominately Greek names. If we have to stretch we can use Roman names.

OT: For a jack bonded to Garryth I really like the name Laelaps; a mythological dog that never failed to catch what Laelaps was hunting.

[TimVanBoening]

My contribution is simple...

Trogdor The Burninator.

[vanPart]

If memory serves, Shiva is an Indian god (I am 85-90% sure of Indian origin.)

Yes.

Shiva is one of the three 'primary' gods of the Hindu faith, along with Vishnu and Brahma. As I recall, the basic idea of each is that Brahma creates, Vishnu preserves, and Shiva destroys, although it is really a lot more complicated than that. Nearly every other god in Hinduism is an aspect of one or more of these three, and these three are themselves aspects of a single Godhead, called (I believe) Brahmin.

As far as the question, a ranged light that used a flaming attack similar to the Phoenix's could be called the Salamander, if that's not in use elsewhere in the game already.

[AJ the Ronin]

Isn't Cerberus unique?

Maybe a Myrmidon with Shield Guard and magical attacks.

[FranzGrenstein]

Cerberus in the mythologies was a unique, but the name and persona of the beast has been used so much that it could be used in general category -- at least in my mind.

I like that thought a light with shield guard, reduce the speed 1 increase the armor 1, give him reach, a shield, and build him like a frelling tank. Points cost I would like to say 4 but more realistically 5, since no field ability has been applied.

I am thinking we have a pretty good flank buddy for Vyros, or the Scyir.

[JediNate]

As for flying jacks I'm surprised no one mentioned Harpies?

[CallmeGene]

I know it's not Greek, but what about 'Tiamat' for the name of a unique? And for teh record, Tiamat and Bahamut both come from the same mythology, but I canot remember which one.

[RetributionBomb]

As for flying jacks I'm surprised no one mentioned Harpies?

I don't think we will see any flying jacks. The big reason why Legion has them is its easy to model a flying warbeast with their whole serpetine bodies and such.

[theorymachine]

Please see: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Greek_mythological_creatures)Greek Monsters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Greek_mythological_creatures)

Suggestions?

~Fury (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furies)
melee specialist jack

~Siren (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siren)
ranged specialist jack

~Satyr (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satyr)
mixed tool kit jack with alcoholic tendencies

~Medusa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medusa)
character gorgon jack

~Muse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muse#Muses_in_myth)
warcaster focus or range buffing attachment

[theorymachine]

addendum:

Muse.... perhaps no other ability as a warcaster attachment then an arc node on a gyro stabilized mono-wheel

[xarrul]

I know it's not Greek, but what about 'Tiamat' for the name of a unique? And for teh record, Tiamat and Bahamut both come from the same mythology, but I canot remember which one.

Its Babylonian, which is also the basis for much of the Cthulu stuff.

Also you are right Jice they really don't follow any sort of scheme with what they are named after. I just couldn't help myself with the "Jumping Jack" pun.

I really just want a four legged jack. If they go with cerebus make it a dog, or horse. This will separate us greatly from the other factions. After all, the ret are very much different in not only tech but culture. All of the humans jacks should be something alike based on the colossus. We aren't fettered with that so we should be pretty free to create our own unique look.

[DrunkenTiefling]

I do love how our Warjacks follow the naming conventions of German WWII Tanks, just swapping fierce predatory animals (Tiger, panther) out for fierce mythological beasts. Hmmm! Coincidence? I think not. ;)

As was earlier stated, I'm pretty sure they'll follow roman/greek names.

[CeltKhan]

Please see: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Greek_mythological_creatures)Greek Monsters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Greek_mythological_creatures)

Suggestions?

~Fury (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furies)
melee specialist jack


Probably not, since Hordes uses the Fury mechanic. It would be like naming a warbeast the Focus.


~Siren (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siren)
ranged specialist jack

Probably not ranged. Sirens were temptresses, which overlaps with the Gorgon. I could see it as an order denial warjack (being too loud or overwhelming), but order denial effects are fairly rare now, since it's so debilitating.



~Satyr (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satyr)
mixed tool kit jack with alcoholic tendencies


Taken, twice over. Warbeasts.



~Medusa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medusa)
character gorgon jack

Possibly. If I was to see any character warjacks, I'd rather it be Manticore, Hydra, Chimera, or Griffon over a gorgon.



~Muse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muse#Muses_in_myth)
warcaster focus or range buffing attachment

Definitely WC attachment. Possibly not an arcanika device, since Cygnar's the only one with anything like that.

[FranzGrenstein]

~Siren (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siren)
ranged specialist jack

Probably not ranged. Sirens were temptresses, which overlaps with the Gorgon. I could see it as an order denial warjack (being too loud or overwhelming), but order denial effects are fairly rare now, since it's so debilitating.



I can see a perhaps a light with a field that mimics a Menoth's Gaze game effect probably nerfed to a certain degree.

I like that idea for muse. Hmmm...souless warcaster attachment, or archanikal warcaster attachment, decisions, decisions.