Folding Table

[Avatar8481]

If people have built table that fold in half but which are sanded/flocked etc do they you put the hinge on the bottom and fold the table so the texture is on the outside or do you put the hinge on the top, try to hide it and fold the texture on the inside.

I'm making a demo table to carry around, but I don't want just a 3x3 square.

[Tionas]

I actually used Duct tape. its flexible, bendable, and holds the world together. Just make sure to:
A: Tape both sides
B: Tape the Exterior Edge (when folded) closed when folded.

also: I used MDF board, because its cheap, and comes in 2x4' sheets.

LINK (http://privateerpressforums.com/showpost.php?p=211123&postcount=38)

[whitekong]

If you are going to be moving it around a lot I think you are better off with hinges than tape.

[Tionas]

you'd think. I've taken mine all over the place. Duct tape is durable, flexible... Im just going off my experinces. its gone a pile of places with me, I've had it for over a year and a half, and I've never needed to repair it.

[Uehen]

Duct tape is.
I have to say that it can do things really well.
Duck brand is crap. And many others are crap,
but if you get a decent brand it can be awesome.

[thesavage]

Duct tape is.
I have to say that it can do things really well.
Duck brand is crap. And many others are crap,
but if you get a decent brand it can be awesome.

Such as . . . ?

[Prismatik]

Seriously, if you want to be TAKEN seriously, get a piano-hinge and call it a day. Taping your terrain together will never look professional and will give a second-rate feeling to the folks you're trying to pressgang into the Privateer Press worlds. If you want folks to follow you, don't come out of the gate with shoddy materials.

[Monly]

Seriously, if you want to be TAKEN seriously, get a piano-hinge and call it a day. Taping your terrain together will never look professional and will give a second-rate feeling to the folks you're trying to pressgang into the Privateer Press worlds. If you want folks to follow you, don't come out of the gate with shoddy materials.

Thats to harsh. Please take the tone down. People play on the floor even. The point of this game is to have fun. It does not matter where he press gang the game to people, just as people have fun with the game. Just today I had my first game on my floor with deodorant and WH40k templates as terrain and I had a blast. And the tape table he made was pretty darn impressive for the money he spent. So please don't give me the profesionalism speech because this is a game to HAVE FUN and nothing more ^____^

[Skyydragonn]

Such as . . . ?
well if its anything like thier glue products 'Gorilla' makes some pretty hefty looking duct tape (comes in black) and given the quality/durability of thier glue products I can't imagine thier tapes being subpar.

[grand exemplar scott]

Why does it have to be a folding tabe? Just get some one or two inch thick pink insulation foam and make a 4 x 4 modular out of 2 x 2 tiles. You can even put holes in them for dowels for better stability. This will probably fit in your car better and is a heck of a lot cheaper than that white elephant of a gaming table that GW makes.

[grand exemplar scott]

well if its anything like thier glue products 'Gorilla' makes some pretty hefty looking duct tape (comes in black) and given the quality/durability of thier glue products I can't imagine thier tapes being subpar.

You can patch a space shuttle with gorilla tape and have it good for re-entry.

[Thracy11]

If people have built table that fold in half but which are sanded/flocked etc do they you put the hinge on the bottom and fold the table so the texture is on the outside or do you put the hinge on the top, try to hide it and fold the texture on the inside.
I haven't built one yet, but I'm making plans to. I have two plans so far.
Plan One: put the hinge on the bottom, so that the texture is on the outside, and put one handle on each of two sides of the table, so that when its folded I can grab both handles in one hand to carry it around.
Plan Two: put a lip on the table (of some kind, not sure what yet) and attach the hinges on the top, so that, once folded, the texture is on the inside. To keep the textured parts from scratching each other, the lip (or some well-hidden rubber 'cabinet bumps') will keep the corners a safe distance apart. Use the same handle idea.


Thats to harsh. Please take the tone down. People play on the floor even. The point of this game is to have fun. It does not matter where he press gang the game to people, just as people have fun with the game. Just today I had my first game on my floor with deodorant and WH40k templates as terrain and I had a blast. And the tape table he made was pretty darn impressive for the money he spent. So please don't give me the profesionalism speech because this is a game to HAVE FUN and nothing more
Wonderful. It remains that what he was talking about was being TAKEN seriously. Like, I may think its wonderful that I have long luxurious hippy hair (as you do that your terrain is deodorant sticks), but my employer doesn't, and I'm sure future employers wont either. Things held together with tape look way less professional and, in general, of way less quality than things held together 'properly'.

He wasn't being anymore harsh than you were.

[grand exemplar scott]

I don't think our employers judge us by our warmachine tables...

But, you should try to make your stuff look good. It makes the game more appealing to potential players.

[saxondog]

If someone has more patience than me with a lot of searching in the old forum terrain board their were two pretty good examples of folding tables.
They are both worth a look for at least reference material.

SFK

[Jake the Dog]

I haven't built one yet, but I'm making plans to. I have two plans so far.
Plan One: put the hinge on the bottom, so that the texture is on the outside, and put one handle on each of two sides of the table, so that when its folded I can grab both handles in one hand to carry it around.
Plan Two: put a lip on the table (of some kind, not sure what yet) and attach the hinges on the top, so that, once folded, the texture is on the inside. To keep the textured parts from scratching each other, the lip (or some well-hidden rubber 'cabinet bumps') will keep the corners a safe distance apart. Use the same handle idea.


Wonderful. It remains that what he was talking about was being TAKEN seriously. Like, I may think its wonderful that I have long luxurious hippy hair (as you do that your terrain is deodorant sticks), but my employer doesn't, and I'm sure future employers wont either. Things held together with tape look way less professional and, in general, of way less quality than things held together 'properly'.

He wasn't being anymore harsh than you were.

Monly wasn't being harsh at all, unlike you or the posted he quoted. Did you even look at the link Tionas posted? I guess not, because it shows the duck tape hinged board he did. You can't even see the duck tape, and doesn't look unprofessional AT ALL. Dismissing someone's idea without looking at it first is harsh in my book.

[docsid]

It seems its a matter of perspective. It doesn't seem any of the posts so far have been harsh. I do agree with the importance of professionalism and aesthetics when your goal is to "sell" the game. There is a difference between a couple of friends getting together and showing someone the ropes versus an official or semi-official demonstration of the game in the hopes of recruiting new players.

If you can make the table look good even using duct tape, very cool; however, using hinges and a well put together table is going to give the impression of higher quality. In some areas that may not matter, in others it can.

To some degree it parallels the idea of demonstrating the game with painted and based models versus bare metal or just primed models. Miniature wargaming is a visual game with a certain aesthetic. It is important that that aesthetic be well represented, especially when doing a demo of the game.

[Tionas]

I take offense that my table does not look professional, however, I'm not going to say that one is BETTER than the other, I was just saying that the statement that Duct tape is not as good as hinges is fallacious. i duct taped the entire length of the join, and it holds up damned well.

all of that said, build a table however you like! Hinges work well, i just could never get a hinged table to sit well, but I never put a whole lot of thought into it, you know.

[docsid]

I actually think your table looks pretty damn good and plan to steal your idea. I never thought of hinging with duct tape and thought carpentry hinges too much work.

[grand exemplar scott]

Oh. My. God. Are we still complaining about our feewings being huwt? If you don't think it looks "unprofessional," then just ignore the guy's comment. See pg. 5, Thou Shalt Not Whine. Moving on.

[Prismatik]

Thats to harsh. Please take the tone down.

Take the tone down? Really?

If you're a pressganger, you should have good materials to show the game to then get new players that give a care for the game. If someone with the backing of a game company showed the best game ever from that game company on sub-standard materials, guess how people will feel about the game even before they start out?

Folks see pressgangers as people that know the game, know how to play the game and that not only do they know how to show it, but have the power of that game company to do so. If you're not able to spring for a simple piano hinge, drop out. This thread is about how to make a folding playing surface (which I totally endorse) and the mention was of making it with duct tape, which I responded to with a differing (if not better) suggestion. If you can make a fold-out surface that can really wow the folks you're showing the game to, you have them hooked just in looking at the playing board itself, the actual gameplay will be FAR easier to show off, thus resulting in people that will add to your player-base and more then likely will be proud of the game and their local pressgangers.

[Tionas]

Oh. My. God. Are we still complaining about our feewings being huwt? If you don't think it looks "unprofessional," then just ignore the guy's comment. See pg. 5, Thou Shalt Not Whine. Moving on.

/post. Edited for being childish and Churlish.

I'll be leaving now. you all have a great afternoon!

[grand exemplar scott]

ah yes, page 5. glad your brought that up. who said my feelings were hurt? your assuming that offense is something other than, I don't know, offensive. however, if you look at page 5 real hard: Page 5 is not an excuse. :) I guess your and my opinion of whining (like whining about someone taking offense at something, dedicating a whole post to nothing but whining) differ. take that as you will.

I put my thoughts on the matter, and pics to my table. one can take it and use it, or not. Hinges also work. I'll be leaving now! you all have a great afternoon!

The definition of "taking offense" at something like that is that your feelings are hurt, whether it upsets you, angers you, or makes you feel indignant, it has upset you in some way. I don't want to get into an argument about this, but it is what it is. I'm not saying anything negative about you or trying to insult you, I'm merely pointing out that when people let haters get to them and respond to them the whole thread gets derailed. That kind of stuff has no place here. Ignore the haters and they can't offend you/hurt your feelings.

That being said, let's move on, as I stated in my last post.

[Scalifano]

This thread went from having my interest to losing it. I keep reading about all this crap talk about being harsh. Do you people live in the real world?? If you think that is harsh, you must be from planet X.

Anyways, I also recommend moving on. Better yet, I recommend closing this thread. Use your search foo, someone mentioned that were 2 previous posts with excelent examples of folding tables.

[Gdufner]

So...Here are my folding table:

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i73/gdufner/Terrain/CRBoard.jpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i73/gdufner/Terrain/SnTab1.jpg

I hinge it so the sand/flock/etc is INSIDE, that way it is protected when the table gets put in a trunk, or slid under a couch....I had an old forum post about how I did it, if you're interested I can dig it up.

[Monly]

So...Here are my folding table:

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i73/gdufner/Terrain/CRBoard.jpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i73/gdufner/Terrain/SnTab1.jpg

I hinge it so the sand/flock/etc is INSIDE, that way it is protected when the table gets put in a trunk, or slid under a couch....I had an old forum post about how I did it, if you're interested I can dig it up.

I would love for you to dig it up :)

[Gdufner]

I would love for you to dig it up :)

Crap, I couldn't find my old post...But I found LINKS to my old post...But they didn't work.

I SHOULD be able to recreate the general idea of it....Ticked my post was MIA...???

:mad:

[Buddhanutz]

Discounting duct tape is an affront to all things manly. I don't even want to hear the forums' take on WD-40, which is the chest hair of all garage essentials.

Duct tape holds up quite well for making the hinge on the table. I have had mine for almost 4 years and I have not had to repair it. I have not yet found a use for WD-40 but I am diligent.

[Wold]

Really - if the table looks good who cares what's holding it together. Seriously- you think the average gamer will judge you for not using piano hinges?