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Hatred
12-01-2009, 11:13 AM
Can the SSC use Charge of Trolls on an actual beast?

Here is all the wording currently:
Storytelling - This model can tell one of the following stories anytime during its activation. When this model tells a story, choose
a friendly unit. The story affects this model and will affect the unit if it is currently in this modelʼs command range. Stories last for
one round. A unit can be affected by only one story each round.
?Charge of the Trolls - An affected model gains +2 to attack and damage rolls against enemy models in the melee
range of a friendly Faction warbeast.

Just thinking it would be nice to use Charge of Trolls on a Mauler to help it Kill a DeathJack or Avatar or any other PITA jack that might be around.

General Nemo
12-01-2009, 11:16 AM
Friendly unit only. No warbeasts, warlocks, or solos.

Sevwall
12-01-2009, 11:25 AM
No. It specifically says 'choose a unit'. Though it doesn't mention faction unit.

SoulReclaimer
12-01-2009, 11:41 AM
That would be sure awesomeness but it does say Unit. Sev has a great point. Does not say Faction so look to some nice minions on that one.

Hatred
12-01-2009, 12:02 PM
Yup figured that, just wanted clarification that a Beast/Solo/Lock wasn't considered a unit.

Not sure that it matters if it said faction or not since there arent many non faction units that are worth a damn that will work for hordes. That you would actually use Charge of Trolls on.

Remember the unit has to be in the Melee range of a Beast and within the CMD range of the SSC which is only 8".

Goris
12-01-2009, 12:51 PM
That's better then the 3inch cast range from before. All things considered I'll be taking this model more then I did before.

CodeRed97
12-01-2009, 01:23 PM
Chronicler seems even more worth taking now. He synergizes well with minions which is awesome. KD on death seems great on the now playable Farrow Brigands. "Flank Lite" on Gators along with an Axer, Bouncer, or Impaler seems like it would be really good too. Concealment on Nyss Hunters, the list goes on.

Soylent
12-01-2009, 01:28 PM
No. It specifically says 'choose a unit'. Though it doesn't mention faction unit.


Who doesn't like a good story?

bakaryu
12-01-2009, 01:44 PM
I have taken to using Hoof It on a maxed out unit of Kriel Warriors and then using Hero's Tragedy on them as well before barrelling them into an annoying enemy unit 17" across the board. This leaves them with a damned if you do damned if you don't scenario, as they either kill my troops and get knocked down or I pass tough rolls and lay the smackdown on them the next turn.

Knockdown is great as it makes an easy target for Grissel to hit with Calamity (thus resulting in MAT9 POW14 Kriel Warriors with 2 attacks each when she also pops heroic ballad on them, MAT9 POW17 Caber Throwers).

Elmiranda
12-01-2009, 02:20 PM
I am thinking SSC with Boomhowler & Co. That is very nice...

theummhmmguy
12-01-2009, 03:24 PM
I am thinking SSC with Boomhowler & Co. That is very nice...

Though this would be nice, its pretty much all Trolls can offer Boomhowler. Cost vs function puts Kriels and Fenns above them. little off track sorry.

Silopolis
12-01-2009, 03:38 PM
I wouldn't rush out and buy minions to synergize with the Chronicler. That sort of thing is the kind of thing Privateer tends to "fix." Especially given that almost none of our other buffs work out of Faction.

Warsmith
12-01-2009, 03:43 PM
I am good with the Chronicler staying exactly how he is right now. Even if they made him only affect friendly Faction models I would be ok. As long as he keeps those stories, reads them whenever and continues to affect unit/model including himself...he is gold.

Sevwall
12-01-2009, 03:56 PM
He is very nice now. Offers great defensive buffs and a nice teamwork buff.

All the while being easy to kill, so it balances out.

Nice piece of design.

Soylent
12-01-2009, 04:02 PM
Concealment is a nice replacement for the Gobbers.

Sevwall
12-01-2009, 04:38 PM
Indeed. I'm almost mad that they are our only option for 1 point. I almost never list juggle, but now I do, just to avoid taking them ;).

Elmiranda
12-01-2009, 05:05 PM
Though this would be nice, its pretty much all Trolls can offer Boomhowler. Cost vs function puts Kriels and Fenns above them. little off track sorry.

As I understand it, Boomhowler is not a Faction unit and because of that he does not benefit much from our in Faction buffs. I have not played with Boomhowler mainly because of this reason. But finding out that minions can benefit from the SSC has deffinitely made the all-rounder unit like Boomhowler more interesting to me.

As to how Boomhowler compares to Kriel and Fenns, there is a thread that already exists discussing just that. Good points were brought up.

And there is no reason to appologise.

zverbug
12-01-2009, 06:32 PM
I've used him in two games now. Combined with Kriel Warriors he's been pure gold for me. I'd love for him to stay exactly how he is. I'm sure I could find space for him in any list where I'm bringing single point infantry.

Hero's Tragedy has been my main use for him so far, mostly because I run my infantry up front as a screen for my beefier stuff.

Charge of the trolls is something that I haven't gotten off in the FT yet, and don't think I ever got off in MK I, probably because he didn't come along for the ride often. Mostly I could see it being used on champs about to take on a heavy jack or caster that's in range of any of our beasts with reach. Pretty situational but nice to have around.

Concealment is still nice, but that's the same as it was before and used mostly on turn 1.

Overall, love him.

Funkylovebear
12-02-2009, 12:40 AM
Him and Borka are awsome. Fennblades standing in a line in front of your army. Heros Tragedy makes your opponent have really think about what they will do to your cheap unit blocking charges. Then mosh pit to knock down any thing that did not attack you models in the next turn.