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dboeren
04-06-2010, 07:15 AM
I'm sure others have probably been using the same list, but I've been enjoying this one and it's proven so far to be very competitive.

Morghoul
Bronzeback
2xGladiator

Obviously in any Tooth & Claw list we're hurting for Paingivers, but this list gets around most of the problems pretty well. Abuse bumps up our hitting power to make up for not having Enrage, and the Bronzeback keeps the other Titans from frenzying so it's a bit less important that we can't remove Fury. Morghoul can always tickle them a bit if you get hard up.

I put Admonition on the Bronzeback, recasting it as necessary when I can afford to. Morghoul is nearly 100% support, distributing Admonition, Rush, and Abuse as required. Nothing else is really necessary.

Yesterday for instance I played three games against Nemo. Centurions tried to trip me up with their no-charge shenanigans. OK, I walk 8" w/ Rush & Abuse and pound you. If you do find a way to hit me first or draw me into a position where I'll be countercharged, no problem - I use Admonition and slip away. Electrify will only let me get one hit? Walk 8" with my Admonitioned model, then two-hand throw you back to my other Titans so they can curb-stomp you.

Are these tricks all 100% foolproof? No, nothing is in this game. But, they do showcase some possible ways to get around common issues you might have and I used all of them in last night's games. Casters that can banish upkeeps will hose Adminition so that's a loophole, but you're still in good shape with three flexible heavy hitters, a couple of tricks, and a really nice feat for this format.

LiamPiver
04-06-2010, 08:09 AM
I love that team. I've played something similar and had great results. The Bronzeback really steps up the playability of the TG, as if it needed it.

dboeren
04-06-2010, 10:38 AM
There's a slow-grow league that I'm going to join and they're doing 15/25/35. So, I guess I need to figure out how to slim this down.

The bad news is that I have to drop 4 points of stuff. The good news is that it's not Mangled Metal format so I can take Paingivers.

I'm thinking of doing:

Morghoul
Bronzeback
Gladiator
Agonizer
4xPaingivers


But, I really miss that third elephant :( At least when it grows to 25 I can stick him back in, and maybe swap the Agonizer out for something to help against the greater numbers of infantry we'll be seeing at that level.

LiamPiver
04-06-2010, 12:16 PM
I ran this at 25 recently and it did really well:

pMorg
Bronzeback
Gladiator
Krea
Drake
Agonizer
Master Tormentor
Beast Handlers (min)

It was really surprising to see two Titans with 14 D and 21 Armor from Range. Opponents were having to do massive CRA to do any damage.

At 35 I was going to drop the Master Tormentor and add another Gladiator and Drake.

Dual Drake Sprays with the Krea in the back for that unsuspecting PS 16+4d6 charge end game throws people way off.

dboeren
04-06-2010, 01:12 PM
That looks pretty good, I was already looking at a Master Tormentor to help with crowd-clearing and I need more experience with the Basalisks in MkII anyway ;)