PDA

View Full Version : Which casters do you intend to test Heavily?



DemonCalibre
12-02-2009, 12:31 PM
Previous to the field test there was a great deal of concern on the Circle Forums about not having enough population to give proper feed back during the field test.

So this leads me to ask who are you going to test Heavily, and what I mean by Heavily is 10+ Games with the same warlock, with some different builds, and some games with the exact same builds, against a variety of opponents, so you can get a real idea of how the caster performs. I think we can agree a single outting of a caster isn't enough to gain a deep understanding of the warlock.

Also the other purpose of this, is to make sure we as a community actually play all the warlock and submit feedback on the warlock, December 19th isn't that far away, and I would really like to ensure that all our bases are covered with experiance and reasoned feedback for each warlock.

I will try to update the list as much as possible(I am on the forums all the time so it shouldn't be to hard)

Krueger the Storm Wrath
=> PUFNSTUF
=> Nalik
=> Branduhb
=> chris_cryx
Krueger the Storm Lord
=> Menoth's Gambit
=> RVBCaboose
=> Branduhb
Kaya the Wildborne
=> Mutton
=>PUFNSTUF
=> Nalik
=> Menoth's Gambit
=> Magi
Kaya the Moon Hunter
=> Mutton
=>PUFNSTUF
=> Brandubh
Baldur the Stone Cleaver
=> Menoth's Gambit
=> Nutcase168
=> Brandubh
Kromac the Ravenous
=> RVBCaboose
=>Elias Macale
=> Magi
Moshar the Desert Walker
=> Mutton
=> Elias Macale
=> chris_cryx
Morvahana the Autumn Blade
=> DemonCalibre
=> Elias Macale
=> Menoth's Gambit
=> RVB Caboose.
=> Magi

Mutton
12-02-2009, 12:35 PM
pKaya, eKaya, Mohsar.

PUFNSTUF
12-02-2009, 12:36 PM
Krueger the Storm Wrath
Kaya the Wildborne
Kaya the Moon Hunter

are ones I have or will be testing.

Nalik
12-02-2009, 12:46 PM
Krueger the Storm Wrath
Kaya the Wildborne

I wouldn't even bother with the others unless they get revised playtest rules.

DemonCalibre
12-02-2009, 12:51 PM
That is not the attitude we want, We have a chance to be a reason to provide positive change. We should be playing all our Warlocks, More so the ones we think suck. Why? so we can provide reasoned, experianced backed feedback, and have thoughtful experiance based discussion on the forums.

Reading the rules and having an opinion is not enough. If it was, Privateer wouldn't even bother with the field test, as i am sure Jason, DC, and their internal and external playtesters could do the exact same thing.

This is our chance to put in our ideas, and let our desire be known, A chance we really shouldn't pass up, We also should make sure all of our Warlocks are represented by the people who play the faction.

Nalik
12-02-2009, 01:15 PM
That is not the attitude we want, We have a chance to be a reason to provide positive change. We should be playing all our Warlocks, More so the ones we think suck. Why? so we can provide reasoned, experianced backed feedback, and have thoughtful experiance based discussion on the forums.

Reading the rules and having an opinion is not enough. If it was, Privateer wouldn't even bother with the field test, as i am sure Jason, DC, and their internal and external playtesters could do the exact same thing.

This is our chance to put in our ideas, and let our desire be known, A chance we really shouldn't pass up, We also should make sure all of our Warlocks are represented by the people who play the faction.

That might be your opinion but here's mine. I have only so much time to playtest. I have 3 kids, a wife, a job, and a social life outside of playtesting. If they present a package that contains only a few reasonable top tier selections I will test those with the time I have. I can't imagine that they didn't realize that they included some real stinkers in the lot. The forums exploded with anger over the fieldtest in general. Not everyone plays competitively, some people are perfectly happy with their favorite warlocks that aren't top tier. But that's not me and I am not so blessed with time to test any model I don't ever see myself playing. Some of these models should of never made it out of internal playtesting without changes. Reeves are a perfect example.

DemonCalibre
12-02-2009, 01:30 PM
I am not saying you in particular have to play everything, but as a group(As in people that play the Circle Faction), should try to play everything and give reasoned feedback on everything. I am not telling anyone what to play, I am just suggesting that we shouldn't be saying "Don't bother playing those" during a time when our feedback is important. That is the only bone of contention I had with the previous post.

FalseAngel
12-02-2009, 01:32 PM
To me that sounds less like actual testing and more like "I only want to win."

While that attitude is good to have with certain things, actual testing it may not be that great. Unless you're actually going to be willing to say "Hey I found this totally broken combo, please nerf it" when playing the good 'locks, you should test the bad warlocks so that you can say exactly why and how they are fail.

We're talking about testing here, not just simple casual-competitive games. We need to get a reasoned explanation of WHY those 'locks suck backed by play experience, not theorycraft.

If you wanted the FT rules just so you could finally play your models with your warmachine buddies that's great, but it's hardly testing.

People who play the low-tier 'locks are far away from "happy with their favorite warlocks" they are testing to figure out why they suck, how they may be good in certain situations and what they feel like they needed to be competitive. You will more likely figure out what's wrong with a model by playing it and looking at how you lost.

I don't have a gaming group in my area, so I can't test or do anything other than read the cards and the forums. I have no reason to give feedback based off of that, so I'll just go back to my painting table.

I wish you all luck in getting the power curve a little flatter.

Elias Macale
12-02-2009, 01:34 PM
Kromac, Morvahna, Mohsar, for me.

Bakemono
12-02-2009, 02:09 PM
I intend to test them all. What would be the point of this Field Test if we only did otherwise. My goal is to have have gotten at least 15 games in with each Warlock at a variety of point levels against both Warmachine and Hordes Factions. So far, since the Field Test began, I have gotten (38) total games in. Vassal has gone a long way toward making this possible as tabletop games are harder to schedule.

PUFNSTUF
12-02-2009, 02:26 PM
you will see mutt, spike, sometimes ror, and I on vassal often. i will also be trying moshar

UnderWood
12-02-2009, 03:36 PM
I won't test any one warlock intensively but I will play every warlock then will play every warlock again and so on.

each list will be different and I will try not to play the same caster against the same faction more than once.

I've yet to play kromac because I refuse to play him against WM but all other warlocks have got a game from me so far 2 with morvahna.

Still need to play more should probably learn to use vassle

Menoth's Gambit
12-02-2009, 04:29 PM
Baldur
Kaya
Morvhana
Stormlord

RvBCaboose
12-02-2009, 04:31 PM
Kromac, eKrueger, and Mohsar

DemonCalibre
12-02-2009, 08:55 PM
Updated.

Looks like Baldur and Kromac could use some loven.

Nutcase168
12-03-2009, 04:11 AM
I only play Baldur. 3 games in so far with him.

Brandubh
12-03-2009, 04:36 AM
pKrueger / eKrueger / Baldur / eKaya

magi
12-03-2009, 05:15 AM
Morvahna, Kromac, pKaya

chris_cryx
12-03-2009, 06:28 AM
Morshar and PKrueger

DemonCalibre
12-03-2009, 08:49 AM
I have updated the list, it's starting to look a little more even, I still think we need more Kromac Love.

bushman101
12-03-2009, 08:56 AM
I have been trying to play them all evenly.
However, if one caster is being under used, I'll gets more game in with them.

Let me know

Quicksil
12-03-2009, 09:19 AM
Morv, Baldur, Kromac

~Quicksil