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Okashii
12-03-2009, 07:28 AM
Lets see what eSeverius brings

Troop removal - STRONG
-Channeled staff
-Feat
-Influence

Heavy armor removal - WEAK
-No buffs to strenght
-No disabling spells (knock down of jacks or things like that)

Assassination - VERY STRONG
-Awareness!
-Feat

Denial - MEDIUM
-Direct damage spell to remove upkeeps
-Rebuke!

Survival - EXTREMELY WEAK
-Worst defensive stats in the game :D


And he gives a total of 35 + 6 = 41 points.

We need ranged jacks to capitalize on awareness
+Vanquiser 8pts
+Reckoner 8pts
+Vassal 2pts

We need an arc node to channel his staff attack and influence
+Revenger 6pts

24pts in total, 17 to go.

What do you think would be the best way to spend this 17 pts for an "all-comers" list?

My last 2 games against trolls and khador I used this

eSeverius
reckoner
Vanquiser
Blessing of vengeance (useless, cant give +2 to his staff, didnt know that)
darvish

temple flameguard (10) and UA
Covenant of menoth
reclaimer

Against trolls after decimating his entire army with his own champions and leaving eMadrak without any infantry after 2 rounds of shooting and only 4 boxes left.
eMadrak used his feat and killed half a unit of temple flameguard, reached severius and slashed him in half.

Against khador the butcher could not withstand the assault of his own great bears XD

Anyway after this 2 games I found myself wanting something else to shoot with awareness, but I feel eSeverius lacks enough focus to feed 3 shooting warjacks and channel good spells.

Reclaimer can help here, but to feed him I need infantry, but I also need anti armor, maybe knight exemplars?

Dervish is completely useless for him

Covenant is a life saver for a weak caster like him, anti knockdown!

Anyway, what do you think?
After 10 games with him I think he is the strongest caster we have.
I feel like playing MKI Khador!



I hope everything is understandable, English is not my mother tongue :D

Deacis
12-03-2009, 02:24 PM
"Either you take control of d3 + 3 living enemy non-character warrior models currently in Severiusʼ control area,"

So no taking over great bears.

Spike0011
12-04-2009, 04:54 PM
Ok, you want my list

eSeverius
^reckoner
^Vanquiser
^Revenger
^Hierophant

2x vassal
Covenant
Wracks
min choir

max unit of bastions or Errants

o, and you can not use the BoV's Affinity on Reign of Fire

Malfunction
12-04-2009, 09:08 PM
^^^ Dude I used the same list tonight, except with 2 vanqs.

Works VERY well.

Garth
12-05-2009, 03:36 AM
I take 2 Reckoners with him.

E-Severius
Reckoner
Reckoner
Revenger
Choir
Vassal
Vassal
TFG + UA (for defenders ward)
Knight Exemplar (mire hitting power) or Daughters of the Flame (also good for defenders ward)

Instead of the TFG + UA I tried the Vanquisher, but then I had not enough choirboys and Fokus. I tried Vanuqihser + Full choir and Rhoven instead of the 5 points unit, but then I had nothing against ... well anything except for assasination :-)

Snake Eyes
12-05-2009, 06:41 AM
@Garth, I really like that list. I'm a strong proponent of at least one unit of TFG in my lists lately, as a buffer, if nothing else. Although, I'm meh on the UA. (I'd rather use those points to get half way to six more TFG.)

A list that gave me some fits not long ago was a pSkarre infantry spam list - it was roughly something like this.
Pirate Queen Skarre
Deathripper
Deathripper
Max Bane Thralls
Min Mechanithralls
Min Bloodgorgers
Max Bane Knights
Bane Lord TartarusNecrosurgeon
Scrap Thrall

Any of those units hitting your jacks under the feat and the Bane's Dark Shroud will rip through it like paper. This is where the TFG are invaluable to act as buffer and help do a little infantry clearing where Vanqs will fail on well spaced infantry spam.

Rebuke would help, of course. When I went against this list I was playing a funky very heavy jack list with pSeverius. Rebuke can be hard to pull off on the Bane Thralls due to Stealth but instead of 4 points for Rhoven to overcome that, I do like the extra 2 points for a full TFG unit. Same effect but with offensive kick.

Okashii
12-05-2009, 12:04 PM
well at least with 2 vassals and 2 enliven when skarre feats you can take your jacks out of the way

bad news is with so many infantry, its easy for your opponent to "block" the flee path of your jacks

dicegod
12-05-2009, 09:13 PM
I like this list. Daughters are awesome with Holy Ward as it diminishes their main counter A2A and Chain Lightening type spells (though it can be bounced off an enemy model).

With two attacks and anatomical precision they are a great tool for eSev.

eSeverius
^Reckoner
^Vanquisher
^Revenger
4xChoir
Daughters
Vassal
Vassal
Covenant
Hierphant
Rhoven

Or something.

sockerplast
12-10-2009, 03:02 PM
I´ve played this list 3 times and won 3 times( vs cygnar, legion and retribution) so far and I must say that both Sevs are my favorite caster.

The daughters are just brutal with def ward, tough from rupert and no knockdown from the covenant and cover one flank really good. Bastions is mainly there too protect esev and counter charge.

Eseverius
Reckoner
Vanquiser
Revenger
4x choir
daughters
3 Bastions
vassal
covenant
rupert
wracks

Soulblighter
12-10-2009, 05:17 PM
This list has worked extremely well for me.

Hierarch Severius
Blessing of Vengeance
Vanquisher
Vanquisher
Hierophant
Choir of Menoth (Leader and 5 Grunts)
Temple Flameguard (Leader and 9 Grunts)
Temple Flameguard Officer & Standard
The Wrack (3 wracks)
Vassal of Menoth
Vassal of Menoth