Jack Marshalling a Kodiak?

[studderingdave]

what would you take to marshal a kodiak? the kovnik or the koldun lord? im not really sure which would suit him better. the koldun lord can keep up with the kodiak a lil better but the kovnik has more survivability and is better in combat.

thoughts?

[Caecus Scius]

I like the Kovnik... they can both run 8" and then when it comes down to it, you can have the powerful kodiak charge in with all boosted attacks...

[vytzka]

Unless you're really hard pressed I wouldn't give Kodiak to a jack marshal - it doesn't demand a lot of focus generally and you like to have an option of performing power attacks (though Grab&Smash helps a lot).

But of these two I'd go with Kovnik. Better chance to get Grab&Smash off with boosted attack rolls.

Or you could get the best of both worlds - give Kodiak to your warcaster and have a Koldun lord run around separately so you can add a single free focus point to the jack if warcaster gives it none but can still load it down with 3 focus from your warcaster if you need to.

[studderingdave]

i was leaning towards the kovnik myself as well. the booasting attack rolls really make him more dependable.

i like the koldun more as an all around solo that can help get rid of distruption and stuff like that.

both very good models.

[Avecrien]

With certain armies I think the Kodiak is an ideal marshalled jack. Which marshal I use right now is depending more on how squeezed I am for points.

[Tevesh]

The Kodiak and Kovnik used to have very good synergy, as it stands right now, he's still probably the better choice. The Koldun pairs better with the Destroyer.

[thomwill]

someone on here a while back had a good rule of thumb about marshalling. if the focus is melee, use the kovnik. if the focus is ranged, use the koldun lord. seems pretty sound.

[vytzka]

someone on here a while back had a good rule of thumb about marshalling. if the focus is melee, use the kovnik. if the focus is ranged, use the koldun lord. seems pretty sound.

Except that you can buy two extra attacks with a koldun lord (one for marshalling and one for focus). But it's not a bad rule of thumb.

[Gnoa]

someone on here a while back had a good rule of thumb about marshalling. if the focus is melee, use the kovnik. if the focus is ranged, use the koldun lord. seems pretty sound.

Yeah, that was me (or at least i know i made the comment on another post). This rule originally came form MKi, where Kovnik could only boost melee attacks and Koldun could boost either (ranged or melee)

Now this rule comes more from survivability. Kovniks have a better chance of staying close to the battle than the Koldun. I think about it like this as well:

Kovnik + Warjack = Light Warjack + Heavy Warjack

Koldun + Warjack = Great solo + Heavy Warjack

[thomwill]

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Now this rule comes more from survivability. Kovniks have a better chance of staying close to the battle than the Koldun.

which is what i was thinking.

[Kevin B]

First off hello.

Im very new to Warmachine but played a lot of other similar games over the years. One question reading this post is if you are using the Kovnik to marshal the Jack how are you boosting its attack? Read the Mk2 rules and cant see where this is coming from. Most likly I havent seen something in the rules as Im still trying to take it all in.

[vytzka]

First off hello.

Im very new to Warmachine but played a lot of other similar games over the years. One question reading this post is if you are using the Kovnik to marshal the Jack how are you boosting its attack? Read the Mk2 rules and cant see where this is coming from. Most likly I havent seen something in the rules as Im still trying to take it all in.

Kovnik's Drive: Boosted Attack ability. That's in addition to normal Jack Marshal bonus.

[Kevin B]

Ahh right found it now - thanks.

Would have thought giving the Kovnik a destroyer would make more sense as the kodiak can use the terrain easier and might move away from the kovnik fast?

Just my thoughts on the issue.

[GasmaskGreg]

I agree, unless you have specific application It makes sense to pair the Kodiak with something that can keep up. You don't want to waste any of its movement in a critical situation (and the entire battle is a critical situation.)

[Tevesh]

Ahh right found it now - thanks.

Would have thought giving the Kovnik a destroyer would make more sense as the kodiak can use the terrain easier and might move away from the kovnik fast?

Just my thoughts on the issue.

The Kovnik versus the Koldun Lord (our other Jack Marshall) has already been discussed here:
http://privateerpressforums.com/showthread.php?t=2733

In essense, the argument boiled down to the Kovnik is superior with a melee based jack and the Koldun is better based with a ranged based jack, such as the Destroyer.

The Kovnik can boost all initial attacks, which means with the Destroyer that is either one cannon shot or one axe swing. If the Kovnik boosted a melee based jack, like a Juggernaut, then that is two melee attacks of an axe and a fist. With the Kodiak, boosting its initial attacks ensures that the Kodiak's Chain Attack (which requires both initial attacks to hit) will trigger.

Also, what's wrong with having the Kovnik run outside of the forest with the Kodiak inside the forest?