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11-24-2009, 03:09 AM
Iron Lich Asphyxious -6
Defiler 5 Withershadow Combine 5
Nightwretch 4 Deathripper 4
Leviathan 9 Seether 9
Bloodgorgers (10) 8
General Gerlak Slaughterborn 3
Bloat Thrall 2
11-24-2009, 03:18 AM
It helps if you tell what's your plan and why have you included those specific models in list.
For starts you 3 nodes is enough and in this case i would have DRx2 + NW as rippers are better with Gaspy then other nodes (because of Scything touch)
How do you plan to feed ever focus hungry Leviathan and increase his efficiency?
11-24-2009, 08:31 AM
I don't think you'll have much fun with the Leviathan and Gaspy. Leviathan wants at least 2 focus a turn to get the most out of ROF 3. Meanwhile Gaspy doesn't have any means to improve the Leviathan's RAT. I'm saying this as a frequent Coven player where I have 9 focus to distribute and I'm still not happy with the Leviathan in those circumstances...
Bloodgorgers + Gerlak are a good choice with Gaspy and the Bloat Thrall works well with Parasite. I like the Skarlock with Gaspy so I can cycle Scything Touch around. Usually I put Scything Touch on a unit at the beginning of the game and upkeep it. Later I'll charge that unit in, get the Scything Touch benefits and then have the Skarlock put it on Gaspy so he can charge in and kill stuff.
As for what synergizes with Gaspy look for things that optimize his spell list. He's got Parasite, Scything Touch, Hellfire, Breath of Corruption, and Teleport. Parasite and Scything Touch are an amazing combo. For that choose list components that have abilities like Reach or are inexpensive to field. I lean toward McThralls, The Reaper, Cankerworm, Soulhunters, and Nightmare. Disclaimer: I mentioned Soulhunters. I like 'em with Gaspy but your mileage may vary. They are tough on the wallet and your playstyle might not mesh well with them. Think it through if you go that direction.
Spells like Parasite, Breath of Corruption and Hellfire are front line spells so at least two bonejacks are necessary; start with three if you're not experienced at the Arc Node game. If you've got one and can spare the points you'll find the Deathjack is a great jack with Gaspy. You get two more focus, more spell slinging action and a very mean heavy that becomes obscene with Scything Touch.
11-24-2009, 08:52 AM
I can see how the Levi might not be the best choice with Gaspy since he doesn't have any knockdown or -def abilities. I figured between the Scarlock and the Combine he'd have enough focus for the Levi...huh, forgot to swap the Defiler and Combine (fixed that). Also, I rarely use the Levi and figured I'd give it a shot, though maybe there is a reason I'm not using it much. :) Think I'm going to replace the Levi with a Seether.
Deathripper vs Nightwretch - I think I just randomly picked which I'd have 2 of. I've played Cryx on and off for a few years and have always used 3 or more Arc Nodes. It may just be habbit putting that many in, though I tend to be a little careless with them sometime. Plus, DEF 15 doesn't seem to be quite what it used to be in mkI.
Bloat thrall is there partially because I have one and never used it, plus I figured parasite would compliment it nicely.
Plan is to have Gaspy run behind the Bloodgorger+Gerlack, run at least one Arc Node with them. Scarlock would be there to cast Scything Touch as needed. Tempted to keep him near Gaspy and have the lock cast Scything each turn instead of gaspy or the Combine upkeeping it once parasite is on something. Run Seether, Combine, remaining arc nodes as another "group".
Removed 1 Nightwretch, replaced with a Deathripper
Removed Defilier, replaced with Withershadow Combine
Removed Levi, replaced with Seether The Seether is neither black nor white.
11-24-2009, 05:01 PM
If you're interested in trying Levi I suggest The Coven or eSkarre. They look to have better synergy. Some folks have been claiming eGoreshade works with Levi as well. I've been playing a Levi with The Coven at 35 and though I haven't been happy with the results I can see potential at 50 points.
With the new points scale for bonejacks its hard to fit more than 3 in. Just have to be more careful with them these days!
I like the Bloat Thrall. Parasite makes him interesting.
BTW the above post was mine. Had an account glich that got fixed by the mods.
11-24-2009, 05:10 PM
I have been playing with gaspy a lot in the last few weeks. The meta I play is filled with many heavies and I need all the hitting power I can get.
This is the latest version of the list I have been using. Has been working very well. About 1/2 the games end in a spell assassination and the other half in a melee beat down.
I have swapped out the slayer for a canker and necrotech. That works as well, but have been playing with power attacks so that is why the slayer is in there. The canker is a bit better IMO.
I have also tried a min unit of biles and combine instead of the gorgers and gerlak (reduced banes to 6). Both work.
11-24-2009, 08:06 PM
Yeah that's Gaspy. 1/2 melee 1/2 spells. He can bring the end game both ways. He's a very dangerous caster. I like playing him which is why I'm lurking on this post so much. Anyway Malfunction's list is a solid one for Gaspy. I like using Reapers. In MK2 they've really started to come into their own.
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