eKaya

[jean1951]

Hello,

I am new hordes and Circle having only started using the figures when the field test came out in November. I have been playing since July 2009 Khador only. As I understand one of PP motivation to bringing out MKII was to allow more warjacks and warbeast on the table. I was reading the Fluff in MKI on Kaya and eKaya. Now to me the little lady seems to be beast oriented. So my question is why does eKaya receives only a +2 in warbeast strenght. Normal Kaya receives +6 warbeast poinrs.
It would seem to me a wee bit odd.

Cordially yours,
Jean

[DeeCius DeadCloud]

Same reason the Old Witch gets less Warjack points than Karchev, she gets a free beast that you have no choice in taking.

To me Circle sees the least change with a heavier warbeast environment, (if warbeasts get fixed to make heavies a bit cheaper) since in mark 1, we used a lot of beasts anyhow due to fury rich warlocks. Just don't expect to hit like Khador, playing both factions myself there is a big difference in hitting power and durability.

[Bearded Dragon]

Yep, she brings along Larry the Barknode with her in every army. Kaya1 does not, so she has more points.

[69Lazarus]

Yes, our raw damage capability may not be as good as Khador but we are fast, still hit pretty hard with stuff like the FWW and can be very hard to hit. seriously? DEF 14 on a heavy is just plain Evil and that's DEF 16 with E-Kaya's Forced Evolution.

[jean1951]

Same reason the Old Witch gets less Warjack points than Karchev, she gets a free beast that you have no choice in taking.

To me Circle sees the least change with a heavier warbeast environment, (if warbeasts get fixed to make heavies a bit cheaper) since in mark 1, we used a lot of beasts anyhow due to fury rich warlocks. Just don't expect to hit like Khador, playing both factions myself there is a big difference in hitting power and durability.

Hello,
Sorry forgot about her compagnion. But your words "no choice in taking" should give you a discount.
Thanks again

Cordially yours,
Jean

[Rosicrucian]

Hello,
Sorry forgot about her compagnion. But your words "no choice in taking" should give you a discount.
Thanks again

Cordially yours,
Jean

eKaya seems to be paying about 4 points for Laris. Comparing his capabilities to the other 4 point nodes, the deathripper and nightwretch, as well as the more expensive 5 and 6 point nodes 4 points seems like a bargain to me.

[Voltimor]

Yesteday i played with Epic Kaya, i miss her "Against the Odds" rule, but this was quite strong rule in MKI so seeing this rule back is not going to happen. But a replacement would be welcome.

Her stats, feat, spells are fine. However she misses one special rule as replacement for "Against the Odds". Replacing "Against the Odds" with Flank Laris/Kaya would fix this, its also possible to shut this down if you kill the right target so it has a weakness.

Kaya: Flank [Laris]- When this model makes a melee attack against an enemy model within the melee range of a friendly model of the type indicated, this model gains +2 to attack rolls and gains an additional damage die.

Laris: Flank [Kaya] - When this model makes a melee attack against an enemy model within the melee range of a friendly model of the type indicated, this model gains +2 to attack rolls and gains an additional damage die.

[Bearded Dragon]

I'd say just give her flank with all of her battlegroup. She's the 'alpha' after all.

[Blaque]

I'd say just give her flank with all of her battlegroup. She's the 'alpha' after all.
That was my feeling and feedback I gave after a couple games agaisnt Ashylyn and Garryth yesterday. She can get to an enemy fine. SHe want sto get to the enemy even with how Alpha works. The issue is that when she does get to the enemy, she can't actually do anything but run away back to Laris. MAT6 and P+S12 doesn't finsih the job and if you are charging around, you better be going after scrub infantry or running home to the barknode.

So yeah, Flank [Battlegroup] or whatever Dawnlord Vyros (a much more beatsticky warcaster then Kaya ever will be) I think is my vote.

And stuff.