Gluing PP plastics

[DragonWolf]

What's the best glue to use for PP plastics?

I'm using "Model Master's Liquid Cement For Plastic Models", but it doesn't seem to be working as well as I remember when I used it on other plastic minis.

Thanks.

[WisebloodJ]

I haven't had to deal with the PP plastics yet but my understanding is that they are different from the plastics that GW use so the polystyrene cement won't work on them.

I would just use the same glue you use on your metals.

[freedoom]

plastic cement does not work on privateer plastic. use superglue.

[Mithodiel]

Does anyone know what kind of plastic PP uses for their plastic models?

-- Mith

[Festablo]

I don't but I bought 2 Myrmidons yesterday, and they definitely look like resin from Forgeworld if anyone's ever see it.

[thesama]

Appears to be PVC based (as opposed to Styrene) although I'm basing this on the "feel" of the plastic and no any official information.

[halbard100]

I used Zap-A-Gap on my Myrmidon and Bastions, same stuff I use on my metals.

Side question, but anyone else notice that the Myrmidon and Bastions seem to be different plastic or is that me?

[almond]

Superglue works perfectly well.

[teejayv]

just use any CA type glue (hot stuff, Gale Nine Hobby glue, Zap-a-gap, Super Glue, and even LocTite has one) to bond the pieces together. I tried dabbing the LITTLEST drop of paint on the base to hold my RoS fig down for priming, and when I went to pull it off, I tore off a small portion of the base, so I think the bond with super glue works JUST fine! ;-)

[Haight]

Superglue works perfectly well.


Seconded. Zap-a-gap (which is what i use on metal minis) works 100% perfectly on the plastics.

-- haight

[Defenstrator]

I had a horrible experiance trying to glue the first Myrmidon together with plastic glue. After that it was super glue all the time. Works much better.

[megatron0]

Im sure PP gave a warning saying that plastic glue will not work on these models and that only superglue will hold these models together.

[KjetilKverndokken]

I thought PP used resin not plastic for its new material?

So yes, you must use superglue, and on real plastic I still use superglue. Poly glue that melts plastic can destroy a model much faster if it fall on the floor, as superglue rather give away.

[manymoles]

So yes, you must use superglue, and on real plastic I still use superglue. Poly glue that melts plastic can destroy a model much faster if it fall on the floor, as superglue rather give away.

I used to glue plastics (GW minis as example) with a poly glue. I never had any parts falling of the model or such things. The bondage is much stronger as a superglued one.

[KjetilKverndokken]

I used to glue plastics (GW minis as example) with a poly glue. I never had any parts falling of the model or such things. The bondage is much stronger as a superglued one.

Yes it is, very much stronger, as it melts the plastic and keeps it together, so its unlikely to just fall of parts from it, but that also the week point.
If a large plastic model should have a great accident of falling down, it might break in places where it is not bonded, or twist. Superglue will shatter in the bond and it is a bit safer.
And I pin my plastics to ;)

The above has happened twice for me with one of the new GW Carnifexes and a Dark Eldar Raider, they broke in the weak parts of the plastic instead of the bond and it was harder to fix, greenstuffing and hot water to fix it. Superglue have a much larger chance of just separate in the bonds so weaker parts do not bend or break.

[CeltKhan]

Also, strong bonds mean that you can't tear apart a model later on for conversions or, in the case of customizable models (like Dreadnoughts), you can't reconfig them in the inevitable later edition.

[manymoles]

The above has happened twice for me with one of the new GW Carnifexes and a Dark Eldar Raider, they broke in the weak parts of the plastic instead of the bond and it was harder to fix, greenstuffing and hot water to fix it. Superglue have a much larger chance of just separate in the bonds so weaker parts do not bend or break.

Ok in this case I can see your point of view. Having a choosen breaking point is sometimes handy.
Most of my GW-Stuff are Space Marines and the large pieces as tanks have some good shape for falling. No long large claws like a Carnifex. Extensions as guns are mostly magnetized. Other stuff like Orks don't care about breaking :D


Also, strong bonds mean that you can't tear apart a model later on for conversions or, in the case of customizable models (like Dreadnoughts), you can't reconfig them in the inevitable later edition.

I tend to magnetize what is possible on plastics and dreadnought-arm hold fine with out any glue. Saves money on buying models for weapon options.

For the new PP 'jacks I would go also for magnetized arms so you can choose between different models for different games. Not sure if all options makeable with one box but I think 2-3 are possible with one box. Best example are the Khador 'jacks: Juggernaut and Destroyer are the same except one having a Fist and the other a bombard. That is one great for magnetized arms.

[mathieu]

I thought PP used resin not plastic for its new material?Not at all. Resin models would be much more costly and heavier. PP models are plastic all the way, only not the same as GW's.

[FritsK]

Ok, sorry for the threadomancy, but searching didn't turn up anything.
So pvc glue won't work, and I am not thrilled (because of the brittle bond) about CA glue.
Any hints about what kind of plastic these jacks are made of? I know that with a bit of luck I can find a plastic glue in the UHU range that will work.

[mathieu]

I'd go with the filla-glu instant MV + conditioner they use in this Beast of war video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhgmUEgZ49s) (explanation around 2:10).

[tonyzahn]

The connection points on the plastics are so tight for the most part that there's not enough twist to break a superglue bond.

[Mod_Redphantasm]

Ok, sorry for the threadomancy, but searching didn't turn up anything.
So pvc glue won't work, and I am not thrilled (because of the brittle bond) about CA glue.
Any hints about what kind of plastic these jacks are made of? I know that with a bit of luck I can find a plastic glue in the UHU range that will work.

No clue what type of plastic, but Superglue holds really well, as several falling myrmidon's will attest.

[Valander]

I think they might be ABS plastic. Super glue is probably the easiest to find, but I tried some Plastruct Plasticweld (pic below), and stuff worked like a charm.

http://www.kitkraft.biz/files/images/adhesives/plastructweld.jpg

[FritsK]

Ok, sounds like I probably got the right stuff then.
UHU Hart for all kind of plastics and UHU Allplast for plastic with other stuff. I bought these some time ago as the starship trooper plastics also weren't gluable with pvc glue.

[Mr_Smigs]

superglue to hold the magnets in... magnets hold the rest together...