View Full Version : My Legion (Orange Blight)
CloudFang
12-13-2009, 02:49 PM
Started posting in the MKI forums and now that my army has become MKII looks like it's time to put them in their new rightful home... plus I've finished a nephilim soldier and two harriers. But here's my warcasters:
Thagrosh
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1278.jpg
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1280.jpg
Lylyth
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1269.jpg
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1262.jpg
GryphonGuard
12-13-2009, 02:52 PM
I like 'em. The cloak detail on Thagrosh is cool and adds some nice character. Good work. I'm interested to see some of warbeasts so bring 'em on.
CloudFang
12-13-2009, 02:53 PM
ok... so here's typhon and the carny:
Typhon
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1636.jpg
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1634.jpg
Carnivean
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1312.jpg
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1310.jpg
Devilsquid
12-13-2009, 02:53 PM
Ooo, very smexy!
CloudFang
12-13-2009, 02:53 PM
Seraphs
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1701.jpg
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1322.jpg
CloudFang
12-13-2009, 02:54 PM
nephilim soldier
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1726.jpg
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1729.jpg
CloudFang
12-13-2009, 02:56 PM
lessers:
Shredders
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1304.jpg
Harriers
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1736.jpg
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1731.jpg
CloudFang
12-13-2009, 02:57 PM
Legionnaires
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1325.jpg
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1330.jpg
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1329.jpg
CloudFang
12-13-2009, 02:58 PM
Groups shot sans nephilim, harriers, second seraph...
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1347.jpg
tonyzahn
12-13-2009, 02:59 PM
I really love the spotted wings, and the freehand on Thagrosh's cape is very cool as well.
CloudFang
12-13-2009, 03:00 PM
thats it for now..... almost done with incubi, 2 forsaken, and an angelious.
they will be posted soon! enjoy... oh and please feel free to criticize and give feedback.. especially on things you think i could work on...
later.
-earl-
WrackedMenite
12-13-2009, 03:02 PM
Nice. The colors look natural.
notsoevil
12-13-2009, 03:05 PM
I think the scheme and execution is most excellent. Especially on Thagrosh.
However, is it just me, or do the Legionnaires seem unfinished?
wadders
12-13-2009, 03:18 PM
I really like the colour scheme you have going!
Orange and brown really work together on that line... awesome.
HellecticMojo
12-13-2009, 03:22 PM
I don't know why I get this feeling...
beasts feel like they've been eating cheetos.
love the infantry, but the beasts somehow give me that feeling of being drowned in cheetos.
"Dangerously cheesy."
coolwhip1
12-13-2009, 03:58 PM
When your post said "Orange Blight" I was a little iffy before I even saw the models. But I must say, I was wrong, the scheme is really harmonious and looks right. (maybe Legion should have been Brown & Orange in the Fluff?)
Very nice work.
I like this a lot. Very good painting.
CrimsonGuard
12-13-2009, 09:27 PM
I think this color scheme is superior to the official one, and the painting quality is also top-notch. I especially like the nephilim soldier. I have to agree with Notsoevil on the legionaires, especially the unit leader looks like she need some more definition in her face.
CloudFang
12-14-2009, 04:57 AM
to: notsoevil & crimsonguard... i was going for a blighted/dead white look.. sort of a lifeless appearance after being tainted... thats why the legionnaires are all white.. i agree they are a bit bland.. any suggestions on how to make them look a bit more finished without taking away from the stark white look i was going for? maybe paint in the eyes? these buggers are also dead tiny in real life.. thanks.to: hellecticmojo..... never thought of cheetos, dont particularly care for them.. however with the cheetah-ish spots on the wings and the cheeto colored orange i believe im starting to see the connection... Hopefully i will not think of cheetos every time i look at these from now on... anyway.. back to the point.. are you saying cheetos in a good way or a bad way? and if its a bad thing what would you do to improve the lot?thanks guys...
CrimsonGuard
12-14-2009, 06:59 AM
Because skin, eye and hair have the same color she looks more like a statue instead of a person (dead or blighted). I would make the eyes darker and give the hair a slightly different color compared to the skin tone.
HellecticMojo
12-14-2009, 07:00 AM
a bit of purple here and there on the lips or the eye socket would looks sickly as well.
Zaxon
12-14-2009, 07:25 AM
I love the look of your beasts and warlocks, particularly the Nephilim Soldier, Typhon and the Carnivean. The orange on the wings with the black spots on the Nephilim looks great! However, on the seraph and harriers it seems almost overdone. Also, using the orange on the cloaks of the Legionaires seems inconsistent with it being the color of blight (or magical effect, as in the case of Rapture and Hellsinger) on your warlocks and beasts. Still, overall a striking army! Great work!
Falcon42
12-14-2009, 07:43 AM
I was expecting something horrible with orange, but you pulled it off quite nicely! 2 thumbs up! :)
asoka
12-14-2009, 07:51 AM
Really fantastic work. Inspires me to play with some bright colors myself - probably to horrible results. :)
Capsfan34
12-14-2009, 08:01 AM
Are these Nyss from Florida? they kinda give you that warm feeling instead of that cold icy feeling...
Awesome paint job though.
CloudFang
12-14-2009, 08:01 AM
hectic, crimson... yea thats a good idea.. i little purple or something to give a little depth to the face would work and still keep them blighted. i do agree it has a little too much of a marble statue look now that you mention it.. think i will try that.. zaxon... i agree.. i havent been able to quite figure out the winged beasts yet.. nephilim was the last model i painted and i think im getting closer to the desired result.. for my angelious im starting with an even darker tone for the wing base and again less orange... we'll see how it comes out. the cloaks however dont really bother me so much and i plan on keeping them.. for the legionnaires to take the color of their dragons blight and represent it in their cloak colors doesnt seem that out of place at all.. their armor also represents the beasts natural armor so i see no problem there.. and i love the color combo.
Shadow37
12-14-2009, 08:33 AM
As always, your models look awesome.
My only suggestions would more high light on the Legionnaires' armor to make them pop more.
Zaxon
12-14-2009, 12:41 PM
the cloaks however dont really bother me so much and i plan on keeping them.. for the legionnaires to take the color of their dragons blight and represent it in their cloak colors doesnt seem that out of place at all.. their armor also represents the beasts natural armor so i see no problem there.. and i love the color combo.
Actually, since you put it that way it does make perfect sense. Most importantly, if you like it run with it!
I am looking forward to seeing your Angelious!
gaminguy
12-14-2009, 02:27 PM
to: notsoevil & crimsonguard... i was going for a blighted/dead white look.. sort of a lifeless appearance after being tainted... thats why the legionnaires are all white.. i agree they are a bit bland.. any suggestions on how to make them look a bit more finished without taking away from the stark white look i was going for? maybe paint in the eyes? these buggers are also dead tiny in real life..
Three words for you: soulless black eyes. And no, I don't have a clue how you would pull it off. The legionnaires are freaking tiny.
Maybe you could work a little of your blight-orange into the skin? Just a little around the eyes (and maybe the ears or along the hairline...) would tie them in nicely with your warlocks. Just a thought.
(Oh by the way, awesome army. Very, very nice execution of a bold color scheme. Orange is hard to work with, kudos for doing it so well.)
ricefrisbeetreats
12-14-2009, 04:52 PM
So jealous. So, so jealous.
CloudFang
12-15-2009, 05:01 AM
hmmm soulless eyes? i dont know... seems like way too much contrast, might work though.. maybe i will try it out on a swordsmen grunt when i get them or a strider.. yea i agree the armor could be a bit more highlighted.. thanks shadow.. im trying to do that on my warmongers.. i still have a hard time going to the extreme with highlighting... even though it ends up looking great, when im painting them it tends to seem so fake and i tone it down but from far away it does make a difference... also i think dullcoating tends to pull things together more and i always lose a bit thhere too.
tonyzahn
12-15-2009, 05:59 AM
It's tough to get used to the more extreme highlighting when you're looking at your work from 6" away. You just have to keep forcing yourself to check it from arm's length.
I'm still adjusting to it.
Exeter
12-15-2009, 07:35 AM
Looking great bro. Your skillz are getting better with each model you finish.
Lego suggestion: I'd take that colour you use on the recesses of the nephilims muscles and make a glaze out of it. Then hit that a few times around the edges of the lego's face. Add a dab of purple to it to go over her lips and under her eyes. Paint the eyes black and add a dab of gloss coat to each to make them like lifeless jewels.
Is it the camera or are the seraph's wings different? It looks like one has more orange showing than the other.
Other than that....I like them better in person. I especially like crushing them under axe blade!! BwahahahAHAHHA!
CloudFang
12-15-2009, 08:01 AM
yea.. i know working up close skews everything i gotta keep checking from further away...yea i might try the wash thing and see how it works.. also the camera really picks up the orange.. its not as (cheesy) in person and the wings are the same they just reflected the light different when taking the camera shot.. but models always look better in person than in camera shots..hey exeter.. you have a thread with all your stuff? or is it just in www.livetocrush.net?
odinsgrandson
12-15-2009, 08:13 AM
Ok, I'll be honest. When I saw the title, I thought that I was going to be looking at some really obnoxious coloring.
Thank you for making me wrong. I think I'll want to steal this paint scheme from you sometime. They look fantastic.
Exeter
12-15-2009, 08:36 AM
yea.. i know working up close skews everything i gotta keep checking from further away...yea i might try the wash thing and see how it works.. also the camera really picks up the orange.. its not as (cheesy) in person and the wings are the same they just reflected the light different when taking the camera shot.. but models always look better in person than in camera shots..hey exeter.. you have a thread with all your stuff? or is it just in www.livetocrush.net? (http://www.livetocrush.net?)
Yeah, I never noticed the seraph's wings in person. I'm guessing its camera antics.
Don't paint a wash on the face. Instead make it an applied shading, but keep it watery to the point where its almost transluscent. Its basically a wash applied 2-3 times in a select few areas (where the hair meets the skin, under and around the eyes, and beneath the lower lip). Mix in a little future to remove the waters surface tension too :p That's how I would skin the cat at least. I'm not the alpha and omega of the model painting world.
Not to threadjack...no posts on these forums with my stuff. Its all on LTC.
Also, all your nmm metals look great. The nephilim's sword is sick between the highlights and the runes. Bangarang peter, bangarang.
CT GAMER
12-15-2009, 08:40 AM
The beasts look 100% awesome!!!
aterdaeus
12-15-2009, 08:52 AM
Some of the better Legion I've seen. Kudos.
CloudFang
02-19-2010, 07:37 AM
Ok... heres an angelious and some incubi... theyre really glossy because i have super gloss coated them.. and because its so cold out i am afraid to dullcoat them? that stuff is so fickle.. but you get the idea:
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1762.jpg
Skyydragonn
02-19-2010, 07:52 AM
superb paint scheme, i love hot natural it looks while adding a bit of badassery to them. very impressive :)
Neverwinter
02-19-2010, 10:10 AM
Awesome color scheme man! I really like it! I love the contrast between the browns, tans and the orange. Gives it a very hot desert look to it, awesome!
Shadow37
02-19-2010, 10:52 AM
The glossy look actually looks good on them. Reminds me of Aliens.
Legalgun
02-19-2010, 12:25 PM
The only thing I think would have made these better would have been some sort of lava bases. The cloth looks GREAT!
alexnjessi
02-19-2010, 01:06 PM
I love the spotted wings on your beasts, and I think this same effect would go a long way on some of your other beasts as well, say near the backbone ridge of your carnivean? Not overdone, but just maybe coming out a little from the backbone. It's just a thought. Overall a wonderful scheme, and as someone mentioned before, I'm quite jealous as well :)
executor
02-19-2010, 01:25 PM
nicely executed!
Invid
02-19-2010, 01:44 PM
wow. nice pattern. Very original and it works together wonderfuly.
ApocalypseRAT
02-19-2010, 02:30 PM
ok... so here's typhon and the carny:
Typhon
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1636.jpg
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1634.jpg
WOW!!!!! Excellent Job!!! How did you paint the chitinous plates on the Typhon???
-ApocalypseRAT :Explosive::Terror:
MikeC103
02-19-2010, 05:58 PM
they look cool. a few of the beasts look like they are about to breath fire.
CloudFang
02-19-2010, 06:32 PM
speaking of breathing fire check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaNc9TylvZY
its just a quick demo for the battle reports i will hopefully be posting soon.. some are in the works right now.. dont worry in the reports will be fully painted armies and battles will be on full terrain with scenery..
this was just to check how things would work... i also plan to slow it down..
anyway just to give you guys an idea.. also check out:
http://www.livetocrush.net
for more stuff by me and my buddies.
tomorrow i will give a rundown on how i paint the armor plating on typhon.
CloudFang
02-20-2010, 05:18 AM
Ok... heres how i do it: (hard shell only)
1. first everything is painted orange (that way i can leave tiny bits of orange in some gaps and around the edges)
2. next everything gets base coated umbral umber.
3. now i make a wash of umbral umber, a little black, and some mixing medium(this stuff is the greatest! if youve never used it i highly recommend it)
4. that goes on in most of the shadowy areas.
5. then bring back your umbral umber where you may have gone a little crazy with the shade wash.
6. highlight up with first a mix of umbral umber, and bootstrap brown.. painting streaks.. ( its a fast quick brushstroke using just the very tip of the brush) paint the streaks with the grain of the plating if there is any..
7. use the same mix add a little bit of menoth base or khacki.. or a bit of both.. till you get a good highlight thats not too bright.
8. then add a little black to some umber and paint the tips of the plating streaking down from the tip.. add some more black and do a smaller portion of the very tip.. then finally the very tips get a tiny bit of just black..
9. then your done. oh go back and add black to the tips because as you finish the model you will rub off the paint on those without a doubt like 5 million times!... thats it.. next big beat i do i will try and take photos of the steps..
Bald Menite
02-20-2010, 06:21 AM
Man, that is some of the best painted minis I've seen. Great work!
Defenstrator
02-20-2010, 08:46 AM
They look nice. I was expecting something more garish.
Lurch
02-20-2010, 09:42 AM
Wow they look great!!!
Jack Shandy
02-20-2010, 09:57 AM
I think this is my favorite color scheme of all the Legion I've seen, totally not what I was expecting from the thread title. It'd be awesome if you post a step by step.
CloudFang
02-20-2010, 11:48 AM
They look nice. I was expecting something more garish.
hmmm... me too... i had come soooo close to doing black icor splattery blood on the incubi but was then talked out of it by exeter, and the fear that i would ruin them...
think i should have?
anyway lemme know what you guys think!?
CloudFang
03-02-2010, 06:52 PM
here is my latest edition to the army.... forsaken: enjoy!
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1840.jpg
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1833.jpg
hopefully i will be able to finish the last 4 legionnaires and my warmongers soon, i would like to post them i also recently purchased a raek and eThagrosh! both beautiful models so i hope to start gettin those done as well..
Thunder_God
03-14-2010, 09:09 AM
What's your scheme? Inquiring minds want to know!
Sorry, at the bottom of the previous page.... somehow missed it :D
Edit 2: Ah, I actually want to know your colours for the non-bony bits :D
mrpink
03-18-2010, 10:44 AM
i love these!! orange is my favorite color....ive ben speed painting most of my legion....i
used a bit more of a reddish orange.... you should check it out... links on my sig!
again great work!
CloudFang
03-18-2010, 07:16 PM
link didnt send me anywhere? i would like to check emm out.. ?
thunder.. it's late... i will post the rest of my stuff tomorrow.. and im painting a raek now so, what i'll do is take some pictures along the way and post up a how to... from start to finish.. sound good?
anyway thanks.. again... Aby is almost finished, and the raek shouldnt be too far behind... then maybe.. maybe ill finally finish my mongers and the last 4 legionnaires! god.. i started those forever ago.. anyway then striders.. then swordsmen.. then.......crap then the new legion stuff comes out! im never gonna finish this stuff.
Thunder_God
03-19-2010, 12:23 AM
Sure, thanks :) Just the colours would be enough to get me started, heh.
CloudFang
03-19-2010, 03:48 PM
here ya go thunder...
for the skin tone on beasts i use hammerfel khaki its a p3 paint.
for the shade i actually mix that with coal black p3 which gives the color a greener/bluer shade and some mixing medium and a bit of water ( i atually have a dropper full of a water and future finish floor wax mix which helps break the surface tension)..
then i go back with just the hammerfel khaki and hit all the normal spots where i went a little crzy with the shade.
then i highlight up using menoth white highlight mixed with the hamerfel khaki and mixing medium.. i go up a few stages adding more and more menoth white highlight as i go.
the orange is a valejo orange. i then coat all my armor, wing skin, talons, and such with the orange.. after i base coat the hamerfel khaki color.
over the hard bone i do what i had posted previously.. this way with the orange underneath i can leave bits of it here and there showing to keep that blighted look.
on the chest bone i cover the orange with a coat of menoth white base then highlight the tips with menoth white hightlight.
for my infantry skin i coat a washed down grey over all the skin parts and then build back up with morrow white and mixing medium to give that souless lifeless look.
if theres anything else you wanna know just ask.
and thanks for any help over on the legion forums i believe you have helped me with some advice.. hope this is good payment for that.. have a good one.
oh i almost forgot:
the claws i start with the orange and do a coat of bootstrp brown then umbral umber then tips black in the usual bone or talon style.
wings: coat orange then a coat of valejo filthy brown almost over the whole wings leaving a few of the orange parts in the crevices by where the wing meets the arm/finger parts.. then same thing with menoth white base, but leaving just a hair more revealed.. then i highlight the wings where they are billowed out the most with menoth white highlight mixed with a bunch of mixing medium so the white doesnt take over but still provides a bit of a highlight... for the spots i just paint bootstrap brown spots near the ends and then paint the center of those spots with umbral umber. thats it.
Khador247
03-19-2010, 06:51 PM
Very cool and different. I like it!
Thunder_God
03-20-2010, 02:13 AM
Very cool, much appreciated! I am looking for something to replace the pure blue if I keep on dipping, and don't want to dip the infantry, etc. The orange blight is awesome.
Just a question to clarify, cause I often see it used, what does using the mixing medium in all these places achieve, so part of the colour below will still show?
P.S. Which orange is it and from which of the two Vallejo lines?
patisarat
03-20-2010, 03:59 AM
Yes, this Legion scheme is fantastic, both in terms of colour choice and execution of the paint job. Top notch! Inspiring stuff.
CloudFang
03-20-2010, 04:03 AM
hey... well, the mixing medium.. what it does is this: it stretches out the pigment by adding more clear acrylic to it. So you get a more transparent color. so yes the color underneath shows through a bit more.. if you mix with water you dont get these results you instead get a watered down color where the pigment forms at the edges of the drip or something like that but its not consistent.
i also always ALWAYS prime white! especially for these colors.. you may get a different result if you prime black? especially with the oranges and khakis.
the orange is a game color, 72008 orange fire. atleast im almost a 99% sure.. the words on the label have been rubbed off?
have any pictures of your stuff up? i would totally like to see em..
anyway hope this helps... seeya
Thunder_God
03-20-2010, 04:10 AM
I'll get a thread going, possibly tonight or tomorrow. I also need to find pictures of my old stuff. You can see some of it here (http://picasaweb.google.com/tundranocaps/Everblight#) (dipped forsakens, slightly different colours, a different dip) and some WIP Lylyth.
This (http://forums.the-orc.com/viewtopic.php?t=8633) is a Harrier that was done almost entirely with washes. Along with stages. Looks better in person.
Lurch
03-20-2010, 04:42 AM
They look great!
Col_Festus
03-20-2010, 04:55 AM
Damn man! I gotta get my Khador on the table against these ;) You coming down to Flagship today?
CloudFang
03-20-2010, 06:25 AM
oh yea thunder.. ive seen that forsaken before... i love that one.. that pink looks totally sickly.. good stuff.. yea get some pictures up..
i love looking at legion stuff... theres some pretty wild alt schemes out there.
seems like more so than other factions.
mrpink
03-20-2010, 08:59 AM
crap! maybe my link stopped working with the NEW forums.... ill have to re... post them
CloudFang
03-24-2010, 05:28 PM
ok... so as explained above here is a run down of how i paint my beasts:
1. prime white... i always prime white..
2. base coat with hamerfel khaki P3
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1865.jpg (http://s250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/?action=view¤t=IMG_1865.jpg)
3. base coat with valejo game color: orange fire.. this goes on any of the blighted areas and any of the armor plate areas both top and bottom.. also i use it inside of the mouth. after these two colors everything should have paint on it and no primer left.
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1867.jpg (http://s250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/?action=view¤t=IMG_1867.jpg)
4. once this is done i proceed to shade my skin tone.. using a mix of hamerfel khaki, coal black and mixing medium, all P3. The medium makes it a bit transparent so my original color shows through a bit.. i also mix in a drop or two of water/future finish floor wax.. (breaks the surface tension of the water) i shade the recesses and low spots between muscles, etc. I usually tend to go a bit overboard but you can always cover stuff up as you move on.
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1872.jpg (http://s250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/?action=view¤t=IMG_1872.jpg)
5. after the shade i go back in with the hamerfel khaki/mixing medium to get the base color back and clean up areas i went to crazy with the shade.. which is usually a lot.
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1874.jpg (http://s250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/?action=view¤t=IMG_1874.jpg)
CloudFang
03-24-2010, 05:41 PM
6. make a bit of a highlight mixing into the hamerfel khaki/mixing medium some menoth white base. also a bit of water/mix. this gets then put onto the higher parts of the muscle and edges of ribs.. etc. also i make sure i have a damp clean brush and my paint is kind of wet. i just use the tip and i brush on in quick downward strokes with the muscles to get that rippled muscle effect.. make sure you clean your brush often to keep the paint flowing and your lines thin and perfect.. i also use a golf swing.. what i mean is that i start making the strokes with my hand as i move towards the model allowing myself to get some practice swings in.. also my brush moves in bit by bit till just the tip hits as i make my stroke! perfection... most of the times!?
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1877.jpg (http://s250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/?action=view¤t=IMG_1877.jpg)
7. next highlight: same as before but mix in some menoth white highlght to the mix.. ok now just the very high points get highlighted.. (after this is done the skin tone is finished but dont be afraid to do some thin strokes of the shade color again to put emphasis on the muscle stiations.. (you may over paint and lose some of the feel sometimes)
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1879.jpg (http://s250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/?action=view¤t=IMG_1879.jpg)
8. base coat of menoth white base ove the orange plates on the undersides.. cant see too well with the raek.. you can see them on my other beasts in this thread. this color goes over the orange nicely and leaves a bit of it coming through. also do the teeth this way and some spikes and the eyeless circles..
9. with menoth white highlight i paint along the very edge and side edge to make each plate pop from one another. (again look to some of my other beasts and youll see.) highlight the tips of the teeth and spikes.
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1882.jpg (http://s250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/?action=view¤t=IMG_1882.jpg)
10. base coat umbral umber P3 on the top plates.. i make sure to leave tiny bits of orange poking through here and there to create that blight underneath look. for the claws specifically i paint a coat of bootstrap brown and then the umbral umber leaving a bit of the brown showing towards the base of the nail.
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1886.jpg (http://s250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/?action=view¤t=IMG_1886.jpg)
CloudFang
03-24-2010, 05:42 PM
there is more to come as i finish this lovely beast!
danaha
03-24-2010, 06:03 PM
very cool!!
Barnaby
03-24-2010, 06:24 PM
Amazing: im saving this for future reference.
Devilsquid
03-24-2010, 06:31 PM
That's wicked nice. I like the subtle use of the orange. It contrasts the pale skin and dark bone very well.
Goris
03-24-2010, 07:16 PM
It's not easy being cheesy?
Sorry, I had to...
CloudFang
03-25-2010, 03:20 AM
i understand...... i forgive you..
veragor1206
03-25-2010, 03:39 AM
Wow, I am really impressed with the work you do. I hate to be a copy but I may have to do something similar when I start my Legion army.
Exeter
03-25-2010, 05:56 AM
Nice tutorial and nice raek, brodo of the nine fingers. I hope you repost this or reference it on LTC. Its a dang good tutorial. Whats with all that cross hatching on the base in one of the pics? Is that runes? IS that how you keep winning tourneys?
CloudFang
03-25-2010, 01:16 PM
good question... nope.. thats where i scratched the primer off so i could glue the raek to the base with quality adhesion. i had to paint before glueing to the base because with all those legs in the way i couldnt get to a lot of the model..
so the y are not game winning runes.. i usually put those..... uhh
so hopefully i will have the rest of the raek finished up this weekend and i can add the rest of the tutorial.. yes i will certainly put it up on live to crush dot net.
CloudFang
03-28-2010, 06:19 PM
ok... so we left off with the base coating of the umbral umber over the orange of the hard top plates.. so moving on:
11. make a shade using umbral umber, black, and mixing medium.. this goes on on the underneath parts the and around the edge.. but not the very edge about a 1/16 away to create some nice illusion of the edge poppin out.. i also streak the shade on the plates, same technique as with the muscles. the shade also goes to the top of the big spikes.
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1888.jpg
12. & 13. & 14 this step i have gone back first and streaked with plain umbral umber on the spots that had a bit too much shade and ive also thrown in a highlight.. so this is a combined step.. the highlight is made up of umbral umber mixing medium a bit of bootstrap brown and some menoth white highlight.. this i use to streak on and hit the tips and edges.. for step 14 i hit the very tips of the long spikes with straight black along with the tips of the claws.. it gives it that final dimension.
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1890.jpg
15. next the base gets painted.. i use a grey from valejo game color cold grey. this covers the whole base then for the back arc i paint a darker grey.. its P3 ironhull grey. i use the measuring mat that i take pictures on to pin point the side arcs (i have a system that works pretty good).
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1893.jpg
16. Watered down Sobo glue on the base and then add the Woodland scenics light grey ballast fine grit. thats that..
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1894.jpg
CloudFang
03-28-2010, 06:20 PM
finally the last few steps of the process. we move to spray coating:
17. after i have finished letting the glue and ballast dry i take the beastie outside and give him four coats of minwax polycrylic water based clear gloss. the water base stuff doesnt turn yellowish at all it stays crysltal clear and being a floor protector or furniture clear coat this stuff give your models an unbelievable durable finish.. however it is terrible glossy! so 4 coats letting dry 30 minutes between coats.. i tried the brush on and it reactivated some of the inks i use on some of my infantry models so i dont recommend it.. the spray goes on in such light coats that it hits the surface and sticks and doesnt run thus it doesnt make your inks run either. also way easier.
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1896.jpg
18. After i let the clear gloss dry for a few (usually 3) days and really harden up i spray with testors dullcoat.. this stuff is awesome.. make sure its a well ventalated area.. and not to much humidity.. anyway i will post pictures in about three days for this step.
19. add the grass to the base.. using watered down sobo glue again.. hit a few patches.. sprinkle and finished!
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1925.jpg
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1926.jpg
Absolutely great call on the orange! May I ask where you got the inspiration from?
CloudFang
04-04-2010, 02:07 PM
Finished Absylonia...
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1921.jpg
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1923.jpg
i think she came out great... if i had to do it again i may have changed the way i painted the folds of her orange cloak but still think it came out pretty good... hope you guys like it..
CloudFang
04-04-2010, 02:10 PM
Heres an updated group shot.. which includes the dull coated angelious and incubi, the final 4 legionnaires to gimme a whole max unit finally.. the raek i just finished and absylonia. hopefully next i will finish my warmongers and striders... that should be a pretty good set up. need the protector, spawning vessel, archers + ua to finish off the line of models... but i still need to paint quite a few.. anyway:
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg268/CloudFang/IMG_1932.jpg
I was shocked when i saw these minis for the first time...
You had a really good idea for the color scheme, and i think that I'll try to paint this scheme too.
But, im not really good painter, so here is my question:
Do you think that technique is not for "not really good painters" ?
Im asking because i dont want to re-paint my minis if something goes wrong..
CloudFang
04-17-2010, 12:51 PM
hmmm... what technique are you talking about in particular?
CloudFang
04-17-2010, 02:45 PM
To be honest... i think you will do fine with this technique.. painting minis is all about trial and error.. also its more of a process or science.. you dont have to be the most creative talented artist in the world to paint a good mini. (understanding color theory helps) you just have to understand how the process works...
if you want, purchase a raek and try out the steps i have outlined... go slow and if you have trouble along the way feel free to message me and i will be glad to help you out.
Okay, thanks, also i think im going to try this scheme on my tyranids from wh40k ;)
And one more thing:http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2845/img1925n.jpg (http://img109.imageshack.us/i/img1925n.jpg/)
ia that free hand or his real muscles?
I mean these darker strips on legs?
And one more thing: :)
Are these strips on step 4 freehand or you washed all his skin?
2LiveIs2Die
04-18-2010, 04:20 AM
grrrrrreat
CloudFang
04-18-2010, 04:30 AM
sure try this on your tyranids... make sure you send me some pictures..
the paint is sort of half free hand and half highlighting the real sculpts muscles.
basically- in step 4 i mix a shade color. its not really a wash.. i dont wash the whole model with it. i just paint the recessed areas with the color. a bit liberally but i never wash the whole model.
as i highlight up i paint in thin thin strokes that follow the muscles(contour lines).. i make sure to highlight the high areas and keep the recesses shaded. sometimes i will draw in with the paint a darker or lighter highlight where its needed to create that muscle look.. you will get it.. just use the very tip of your brush and make sure the paint is pretty wet so it goes on really smooth.. make your strokes quick. also constantly wash your brush to keep the brush a little on the wet side to help with paint flow... not dripping wet but damp.
if it doesnt look striated enough paint in a few lines of your shade even on the raised areas. remember part of successful mini painting is using techniques that trick the human eye into seeing what it wants.. its all about tricks and techniques.
something i have trouble with is exaggerating. When your holding your model up close and painting big differences in colors and highlights look really fake but when the model is 2' away from you on the table it looks completely different and those exaggerations might look like subtle highlights at that distance and subtle highlights might not look like anything!
feel free to ask more questions.
-earl-
Okat, thanks, i havnt any more questions now ;)
7thleo
08-29-2010, 01:02 AM
I just read this thread a like everyone else really like your scheme.
Crazyboy
08-29-2010, 05:37 AM
Very nice work!
Devilsquid
08-29-2010, 06:55 AM
that's a pretty frick'n wicked paint job!
alexx
08-30-2010, 02:29 AM
there's a real sense of menace in the orange. I like it better than the studio scheme. something about the colors remind me of a venomous spider/bug/critter. very nice!
Ehlihuht
08-31-2010, 05:50 AM
Thank you so much for your guide!
Keep up the good work!
btw what colors and steps for the Aby and thagrosh skin ??
CloudFang
09-01-2010, 12:53 PM
oh.. yea the skin... well... geez first off i would like to say ive been painting some POM recently and havent done anything new with these guys in a while, which is kind of terrible since it really is the only faction i put down on the table to play with... uhh looks like ill have to paint some more up soon and get this thread kickin again..
but as far as the white goes i use:
first i always prime white.
then i get some vallejo game color cold grey. mix this with a fair amount of matte medium and a drop or two of water.
this turns it into more of a wash that i paint onto all the skin areas. leaving the raised areas a bit lighter and the lower parts darker.
then i take straight morrow white add some matte medium to thin down and build up the highlights.
in some instances i go bak after and define some shadows again using cold grey or a mix of cold grey and PP iron hull grey.. but thats all.
there is not too much life in that skin tone... but thats what i was going for.
good luck.
odinsgrandson
09-02-2010, 07:41 AM
No hurry... but you do need to put more guys into this thread. This is one of the best Legion color schemes that I've seen.
I'm currently painting up some huge dragons for an Iron Kingdoms game (yes, they're very, very big) and I'm thinking about using some elements color scheme for them.
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