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dergliss
12-13-2009, 11:36 PM
This is the most ******-bag 35 point list I've ever seen and I'm sad to say that I'm responsible for it:

Bartolo Montador -5
Defender 9
Defender 9
Defender 9
Black 13th 4
Gorman 2
pEiryss 3
Arlan 2
Mechaniks 2


Basically Bartolo casts Broadside every turn and the Defenders put down six RNG 16 POW 15 shots a turn, capable of boosting up to four of them with help from Arlan. Meanwhile you've got Arlan and the Mechaniks to make sure that the guns keep firing; you can even throw on Batten Down the Hatches if your really taking a heavy beating, but that won't be necessary in most situation (excluding the feat turns of certain casters like Siege, eSorcha, etc.). The main weaknesses of this set up would be heavy stealth lists (like pGoreshade) and the Choir. The B13 with stealth from Gorman's smoke bombs can put Fire Beacon templates on stealthed targets and Eiryss can help them flank to kiss support like the Choir.

I know It's not unbeatable (eHaley would still give it a decent bit of trouble with Deceleration) and I'm probably not the first person to notice how abusable Broadside is, but I thought that this was far too stupid not to point out.

galonso
12-13-2009, 11:40 PM
Am I missing something? Bart cant take Cygnar troops at 35pts.

Soulblighter
12-13-2009, 11:45 PM
This list isnt legal. If you only have a mercenary warcaster you can only use mercenary models.

dergliss
12-13-2009, 11:54 PM
Oh, I thought that him working for Cygnar meant that he could use Cygnar models. Does that only mean that he can be the second caster in multi-caster game with a Cygnar caster?

Also, if this list doesn't work, then I'm more relieved than embarrassed for posting it as I was hoping that PP didn't overlook such a bad imbalance. Although you could still do something similar with Mules... >.>

kylegnagy
12-14-2009, 05:50 AM
well, you could take this list, but most of the warjacks would be inert when the game started. The mercenary warcaster can only power mercenary warjacks. (I know there is something more to it with rhulic, but I dont know mercs very well)

There are some rules about using Cygnar models with a merc army, but again I dont know mercs very well.

The reason they list a merc warcster as working for another faction is exactly as you stated, a secondary warcaster.

You do mention that broadside can be abused with other merc models, which is true, but not quite as powerful.

GunMageinTraining
12-14-2009, 05:54 AM
Mariner's are pretty good, Mule's still very nice.

Broadsides Bart is the king of the Jack Gun-line.

Soulblighter
12-14-2009, 06:40 AM
well, you could take this list, but most of the warjacks would be inert when the game started. The mercenary warcaster can only power mercenary warjacks. (I know there is something more to it with rhulic, but I dont know mercs very well)

cant even do that. if a merc caster is your only caster you can ONLY use merc models. but yeah this concept is very nice with mules and mariners.

phreaker187
12-14-2009, 08:34 PM
Yes, he has to be your second caster.

dergliss
12-14-2009, 10:13 PM
Hmm, so he's a little less over-powered, but still pretty gross and only for mercs. >.> That kind of sucks.

Virgil38
12-15-2009, 03:38 AM
Try this, and make sure to have hotshot on Bart as he'd have three boosted spray attacks.


Captain Bartolo Montador 5
Mariner 8
Mariner 8
Mule 8
Mule 8
Dirty Meg 2
Eiryss, Mage Hunter of Ios 33
Master Gunner Dougal MacNaile 2
Reinholdt, Gobber Speculator 1