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erelitor
12-14-2009, 12:55 PM
i am trying to do some snow basing, and i currently am using the Brushthralls formula of 1 part water 1 part elmers glue 2 parts baking soda it looks good but i was curious what other people do about snow and basing

loftybloke
12-14-2009, 12:57 PM
I use GW snow flock, mix it up to a good consistency with PVA and water, and then built up drifts/patches on the base, works a treat in my experience :)

Gdufner
12-14-2009, 01:34 PM
I use both of those techniques, depends on how much control I need....

Baking Soda has more control. Snow flock looks "fresher"....

thomwill
12-14-2009, 02:34 PM
i use gale force nice snow. just add some white glue. went with this once i heard that baking soda will yellow with age. never tried it, so i can't say, but i didn't want to chance it.

relasine
12-14-2009, 03:11 PM
Wood Scenics Snow is great. $10 of it will last your entire life.

halbard100
12-14-2009, 04:53 PM
I saw a tutorial use green stuff to make the bulk then painted white, covered in glue, then dredged in baking soda. Personally baking soda makes a "heavier" looking snow, from weight not volume, which I tend to like more.

DangerMouse
12-14-2009, 05:02 PM
I use a PVA, water, and baking soda mix and then dust the base with a bit of straight baking soda so it does not look clumpy. I also use Woodland Scenics clear water effects for ice and cork or greenstuff for the rocks.

Here are 2 ex:
Snow, ice, and cork rocks:
http://www.lorddangermouse.com/paintblog/Satheras.jpg
http://www.lorddangermouse.com/paintblog/Satheras2.jpg

and snow, ice, and greenstuff:
http://lorddangermouse.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/lanyssaryssyll.jpg
http://www.lorddangermouse.com/paintblog/LanyssaRyssyll3.jpg

saxondog
12-14-2009, 11:03 PM
Wood Scenics Snow is great. $10 of it will last your entire life.

I use the Woodland Scenics as a final dusting. I build up layers using baking soda/glue. I hope to live long enough to use up the $10 bottle.

SFK

Banjulhu
12-15-2009, 02:00 AM
I use the GW snow.

My preferance is for light dustings of snow over other basing materials because I am not the biggest fan of lots of white on bases.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2676/4184602523_8648c55e77.jpg

On this 'jack I used slate of varying sizes and straw and clump from the GW hero basing kit. After I had the slate, straw and clump stuck in place, I brushed the areas that I wanted dusting in snow with watered own pva and the sprinkled the snow flock lightly over the base making sure I did not drop on too much in one place as to cover the materials below and finisehed by blowing away the excess.

Brandubh
12-15-2009, 04:56 AM
Baking soda, PVA, White Paint + a dab a blue paint. Contrary to popular belief, I've never had it yellow.

I can't come up with a chemical explanation as to why it would yellow either. The only thing I can come up with is that the baking soda is absorbing something else that is present. Oil based clear coats can yellow over time as well.

I did have one instance where I tried flocking with tea leaves & covering with the soda snow...big mistake. The baking soda drew the tea up into it and turned brown. :P Oops.

Another "yellowing" people might be seeing is actually the white pigment. One of the titanium dioxide pigments (used in white paint) is sort of yellow. That could be it. That's why I add a little blue. It neutralizes the yellow/orange colors.

thomwill
12-15-2009, 05:13 AM
Baking soda, PVA, White Paint + a dab a blue paint. Contrary to popular belief, I've never had it yellow.

I can't come up with a chemical explanation as to why it would yellow either. The only thing I can come up with is that the baking soda is absorbing something else that is present. Oil based clear coats can yellow over time as well.

I did have one instance where I tried flocking with tea leaves & covering with the soda snow...big mistake. The baking soda drew the tea up into it and turned brown. :P Oops.

Another "yellowing" people might be seeing is actually the white pigment. One of the titanium dioxide pigments (used in white paint) is sort of yellow. That could be it. That's why I add a little blue. It neutralizes the yellow/orange colors.

yeah, i wasn't sure either. it was just something that i read, and i didn't want to chance it.

MetalsMike
12-15-2009, 05:21 AM
What's PVA?

DangerMouse
12-15-2009, 05:53 AM
What's PVA?

Plain old white glue like Elmer's Glue is PVA (Polyvinyl acetates) Glue.

-DM

MetalsMike
12-15-2009, 07:01 AM
Plain old white glue like Elmer's Glue is PVA (Polyvinyl acetates) Glue.

-DM

Ah thank you... I was assuming it was some specific brand or type of white glue or something... glad to know I was on the right track and not thinking something like... THE NEXT BIG MOVIE IN THE PREDATOR SAGA!!! PREDATOR VS. AVATAR!!!!

grey_death
12-15-2009, 08:13 AM
I'm a fan of Woodland Scenics snow flock as well. Here's how I go about using it. (http://thepaintingcorps.blogspot.com/2008/12/friday-quick-tip-snow-basing.html)

eo151
12-15-2009, 12:28 PM
I use GF9 snow mixed in with PVA glue thinned with a bit of water. The mix should look like a soft paste. I use a palette knife to apply it, and then sprinkle extra dry GF9 snow over the patches while its still wet. After the glue has set, I shake off any loose snow that left and then I sweep the base with a soft bristle brush to help knock off any remaining bits and its done.

thomwill
12-15-2009, 12:32 PM
I use GF9 snow mixed in with PVA glue thinned with a bit of water. The mix should look like a soft paste. I use a palette knife to apply it, and then sprinkle extra dry GF9 snow over the patches while its still wet. After the glue has set, I shake off any loose snow that left and then I sweep the base with a soft bristle brush to help knock off any remaining bits and its done.

this is basically what i do as well. the only thin i do different is once the initial snow mixture has dried, i go back with some watered slightly watered down glue and brush it back over the snow to give it a bit of extra sealing/protection.