Last Season Story - back to MK I

[Szugi]

Well, I am sorta cutting into the "oh! MK II!" stuff, but...
I have this really "annoying" Cygnar player... [annoying as in much better then I] and he came up with this difficult army list... No matter how I approach it, I cannot find weakness or ideas for myself... So... I decieded that I will go to you guys for help. The list is:
Faction: Cygnar
Points: 495
Model Count: 29
Victory Points: 19

Lieutenant Allister Caine
> Squire
Gudrun the Wanderer
Gun Mage Captain Adept
Ogrun Bokur
Stormsmith
Stormsmith
Stormsmith
Black 13th Gun Mage Strike Team [3]
Long Gunners [10] (4 added)
> Long Gunner Officer & Standard Bearer [2]
Sword Knights [6] (0 added)
thanks... after this is over, we can get back to MK II. sorry.

[Szugi]

Oh, right... I came up with a list... not sure what to think of it, so I'll post it up for comment too.
Faction: Circle Orboros
Points: 493
Model Count: 39
Victory Points: 18

Morvahna the Autumnblade
Sentry Stone & Mannikins
> Mannikin
War Wolf
War Wolf
Bog Trog Ambushers [10] (4 added)
Druids of Orboros [6]
> Druid of Orboros Overseer [1]
Shifting Stones [3]
Swamp Gobber Bellows Crew [2]
Tharn Bloodtrackers [10] (4 added)

[wvieira422]

Make an army that creates lots of LOS blocking terrain and force him to move around to find the open shot. use some beasts to try a two handed throw of a large base model at kaine. remember even if it misses it's only deviating around d3 inches so the large base model will likely clip him knocking him down. once down and no longer DEF 17 go at him with everything you have. That's how i beat a similar army to that twice already.

And i don't see any beast in your army you need some at least two heavies like two warp wolves or one warpy and one pureblood warpy. Also morvahna has never been nor probably never will be one of the best casters try a different one.

[Szugi]

Hmmm... I keep forgetting about power attacks. Perhaps it because I don't know them too well. Oh, well... better start now [since I have a month left... or less]. Thanks for the ideas

[WickedGood]

As a Cygnar player his biggest weakness is he only has the b13 and long gunners to take heavies out. Even the B13 is only going to take 1 heavy a turn and the long gnners wll only damage one. Reduce the times they get to shoot at you by taking kaya and casting that stealth ability. Take 4 heavies, With stealth he has to waste one shot to get the b13 past stealth so he probably only kills one of the heavies. The remaining ones should be well within range to do their thing. Send something fast after the b13 and it should do just fine you only need to kill the girl nd their ability to kill heavies goes down signifcantly. keep stealth on the army and the long gunners can be ignored. any of your heavies should be able to ignore gudrun and then set up for the assasinatin run against Caine with kaya with an argus to get her there. boost to hit Caine and eventually you wll get the knockdown, use her feat to fill up and it should be all over pretty quickly.

[russianpaladin]

try a wayfarer bomb on the B13th