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Mutton
11-24-2009, 11:55 AM
I plan on testing him out ASAP, but he looks so very awesome. Charge 10", thresher for hearts, shoot someone with your bird, buy attacks, PROFIT. Favorite buff of the FT.

Ivellis
11-24-2009, 11:56 AM
He's a beast. Can't wait to try him out.

Marius
11-24-2009, 12:03 PM
He's a beast. Can't wait to try him out.

Nah, he's still a solo :p. He does look quite awesome now though, actually a threat to be considered.

blue loki
11-24-2009, 12:09 PM
He does appear to be the monster he always should have been. I like what I see.

NecroticDischarge
11-24-2009, 12:09 PM
So with Virtuoso he could Thresher a unit, then use some Heart tokens to finish up the rest, then pop something else with his Raven boosting the attack roll with a corpse token and shift over. potentially tying up another unit or model?

Mutton
11-24-2009, 12:28 PM
And buy attacks on them.

Also, take an Argus with him. HUNTER.

Kypt
11-24-2009, 12:45 PM
So with Virtuoso he could Thresher a unit, then use some Heart tokens to finish up the rest, then pop something else with his Raven boosting the attack roll with a corpse token and shift over. potentially tying up another unit or model?

No, when you thresher you give up your initial attacks due to it being a * attack

blakeh1
11-24-2009, 01:02 PM
With Thresher you do give up your initial Raven attack, but I believe Virtuoso still permits buying a Raven attack after Thresher.

According to the wording it seems like he can do that since it states
"This model can make melee and ranged attacks during the same combat action."


What you can't do is use the intitial Raven attack, then the Thresher attack

Mutton
11-24-2009, 01:14 PM
Well, you can't buy Raven attacks, but you can do normal charge attacks then Raven. So if you don't want to Thresher it works.

blakeh1
11-24-2009, 01:16 PM
oops, missed the "melee attack" stipulation and just saw buy extra attacks

Ger
11-24-2009, 02:51 PM
Basically either you Thresher or you Raven. In any event, popping around causing terror is great.

"Hey guys, you all are going to cower in sight of me and then next turn Imma hack you into little bits. That work for you?"

Dark Fledgling
11-24-2009, 03:07 PM
Ok so you give up your initial attacks to use thresher so cant raven and then thresher nor vise versa.
BUT you may be able to use thresher, and buy a raven attack with a heart token. Since it doesn't go over his rate of fire its ok and since its not an initial attack its legit.
atleast, thats the way I read it. IT works similarly with the thunderhead also, you can use the *attack energy pulse and then buy extra ranged attacks afterwards.

so yes, I will be using him to charge, thresher, buy a raven, and then engage something else. Pesky ranged unit hiding behind its melee meat shields? Say hello to the terror causing lord : )

-DF

DudeOfOrboros
11-24-2009, 03:10 PM
Don't forget Lightening Tendrils with the Thresher.

Mutton
11-24-2009, 03:12 PM
Ok so you give up your initial attacks to use thresher so cant raven and then thresher nor vise versa.
BUT you may be able to use thresher, and buy a raven attack with a heart token. Since it doesn't go over his rate of fire its ok and since its not an initial attack its legit.
atleast, thats the way I read it. IT works similarly with the thunderhead also, you can use the *attack energy pulse and then buy extra ranged attacks afterwards.

so yes, I will be using him to charge, thresher, buy a raven, and then engage something else. Pesky ranged unit hiding behind its melee meat shields? Say hello to the terror causing lord : )

-DF

Doesn't work, as you can only buy melee attacks

blakeh1
11-24-2009, 03:19 PM
Don't forget Lightening Tendrils with the Thresher.

He's already got reach and Lightning Tendrils now only grants reach instead of a 4" melee rnage, but the Electro Leap part could be pretty nasty getting to make an additional POW 10 damage roll to a model within 4" when someone has the unit spread out

biggiy2c
11-24-2009, 11:10 PM
According to the rules changes, and how they work with his special abilities, Lord of the feast is capable of attacking with the raven (shifter) to get him into melee, and then attacking with his thresher *attack in the same turn.

Buying extra attacks will however only grant him single attacks as he is only allowed 1 *attack per turn.

Additionally, Lightning Tendrils would allow him to hit an additional model within 4" for each model hit by the thresher attack. Effectively taking out an entire unit in one turn is very possible with him.

Bladestorm
11-25-2009, 12:54 AM
When you start a combat action you choose one of four options, Virtuoso effectively melds both "make initial melee attacks" and "make initial ranged attacks" into one option, while the LoTF can't make power attacks which leaves that one out, this leaves him a choice of :

Make one special attack.
OR
Make initial ranged + initial melee attack.

He really can't raven then thresher or vice versa.

It's spelled out under "Combat actions" on page 20 if you want to look it up.

ResurrectioN
11-25-2009, 01:24 AM
...snip...

Additionally, Lightning Tendrils would allow him to hit an additional model within 4" for each model hit by the thresher attack. Effectively taking out an entire unit in one turn is very possible with him.

Lighting will just jump once to nearest model and it is more likely that that nearest model will be the one already inside melee range as models in units are usually placed in rows.

Menoth's Gambit
11-25-2009, 05:53 AM
Lord of the Feast sure got a bit more....HUNGRY.

ResurrectioN
11-25-2009, 06:08 AM
Is it out of balance that he can "teleport" behind model that was hit with Raven?
Eg. hit heavy jack/beast and effectively gain 2" of additional threat range (size of base) and thus get models behind into melee range.

Falc
11-25-2009, 07:20 AM
Unfortunately, it now seems that my window to ever pull off an Offering is shrinking rapidly... And the few, the proud who have will be able to rest on their laurels for the rest of eternity :-)

ShubNiggurath
11-25-2009, 09:25 AM
Really like the change to LotF. Always wanted to use him more often as I'm a big fan of the model.

blue loki
11-25-2009, 10:08 AM
Is it out of balance that he can "teleport" behind model that was hit with Raven?
Eg. hit heavy jack/beast and effectively gain 2" of additional threat range (size of base) and thus get models behind into melee range.

Only testing will tell, but not likely. He has always been able to do this.

Mosstooth
11-25-2009, 10:38 AM
The difference now being his rat improvement. His tactics will be reliable now. Can't wait to field him.

LEJKaya
11-26-2009, 07:20 PM
I'm looking at him with 2 things in mind:

Lightning Tendrils: Thresher + this will be ridiculously powerful. Hit everyone within reach range and each one generates a bounce. Now even though most of these bounces will hit the same models hit by thresher it can also hit a few others and since the electro leaps go off before thresher damage rolls he can possibly kill some heavy infantry since each one will be hit twice.
Even without thresher it's a nice boost just for the Lord spending tokens to kill folk.

Tracker: The LotF with hunter letting him get real close in cover of forests to the perfect target.

After these two I also like Bounding, it looks good with +2" move and also the +2 on the charge attack roll at least (Which may help get the first token in).

MCPeePants
11-26-2009, 08:33 PM
I look forward to loading up on heart tokens with thresher, then using shifter to get at high priority targets. If he can hit, he can even do decent damage to a warcaster. Probably not enough to assassinate on his own, but that's some real pressure that's hard to stop.

Izza
11-26-2009, 08:50 PM
I tried him on Wed night.
First dice roll for him under Mk2, Raven at a Motar Crew.
Boxcars!

OH Yeah! Lord of the Fail no more! :D
He killed the Motar Crew good (go Thresher!), liking the heart eater mechanic.
He then got charged by the Butcher, but I was happy.
Roll on more games!

Daemonenprinz
11-26-2009, 10:15 PM
Just for refrence, the LotF can't both Raven and *Thresher on the same activation. Mootaz clarified it.

http://www.privateerpressforums.com/showthread.php?t=812

The same was repeated by LC here.

http://www.privateerpressforums.com/showthread.php?t=851

I still think hes very nice even given the above limitation.