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dcf
12-21-2009, 03:11 PM
I have a problem with putting together a good list featuring Hierarch.I really dig his feat, model and all the cool denial spells, but each time I try to choose models for my list I end up with something too much centered around exterminating troops, which leaves me defenseless against something heavy.
I am in no position to buy whole list from the beginning, so I'd like to use some pieces that I already own. I thought about something like:

Hierarch Severius -6
Hierophant 2
Revenger 6
Blessing of Vengeance 7
Castigator 8
Choir of Menoth (4/6) 2
Temple Flameguard (10/10) 6
Temple Flameguard Officer and Standard Bearer 2
Knights Exemplar (6/6) 5
Wrack 1
Rhupert Carvolo, Piper of Ord 2

Well, it's nothing complex. Severius and Piper pump TFG's DEF. TFG are screening fragile KE. Both units are in the center, while arc nodes are placed on the flanks. Everything seems fine to some degree, but I won't make any use of Awereness in this case. For this list I'd have to buy full unit of flameguards,UA and piper. Well, this is as much as I can afford right now.
Keep in mind that I really like symmetry and "unity" in my list. I mean - putting things like daughters or mercs in my list is really hard to stomach for me. They simply look out of place (at least for my taste). And yes, I am fully aware of the fact, that Vanquishers and Reckoners are the best bet with eSevvy.
Feel free to suggest any other caster that'd synergize well with my jacks (I personally don't think it's possible). I like BoV's design and have Castigator and Revenger fully painted and tried to use them with Amon, but I think that Blessing is a waste points with warcaters other than Severius, it's more proffitable to take something like 2 dervishes while adding 1 point to seal the deal.
Same goes for Reznik and eKreoss. I absolutely love the idea behind sacrosanct, perdition or witch hound but can't come up with anything synergizing well with my models.

Thanks in advance.

jkin1962
12-22-2009, 02:03 PM
I really like Zealots with any version of Sevvy for the fluff. I always bring at least one unit with MB. :)

My only other suggestion would be to drop the Castigator for a Crusader and use the two extra points for a solo. Perhaps a Vassal for the BOV or the Crusader?

Other than that, I very solid list in my opinion.

Vinter_Loyalist
12-22-2009, 02:43 PM
I agree. Zealots area good deal. But where to fit them? How attached are you to the KE? Ditch the Castigator for a Crusader, the wrack and the KE for a full unit of zealots with a monolith bearer.

Soylent
12-22-2009, 03:05 PM
pSevy is what you want.

dcf
12-23-2009, 12:13 AM
pSevy is what you want.
The problem is that I've been playing him for over 2 years now and his playstyle simply got old (upkeep EoM, immo,immo,immo,immo/a2a,a2a).
I had zealots back in MK1 days and have a good opinion of them and would have nothing against fielding them with eSevvy, but can't seem to figure out any particular combo with him. I think that they fit better in HR/Testament/Kreoss list (cheap souls/drop and pop). Let's imagine holding position (scenario) - TFG with iron zeal, piper's song and holy ward - they are immune to spells and have around 20 def against charges.


Why such a hate for Castigator? Do combustion, speed of 5 and two hand throw not appeal to you?
Honestly, I don't think that Crusader + vassal can outclass castigator.

jkin1962
12-23-2009, 07:38 AM
Why such a hate for Castigator? Do combustion, speed of 5 and two hand throw not appeal to you?
Honestly, I don't think that Crusader + vassal can outclass castigator.

It's not that the Castigator is a bad jack. Far from it. It comes down to getting the most out of your points, especially with Mark II. The Castigator is a good jack but in my opinion is not worth the two extra points over a Crusader. The Crusader is dirt cheap and still provides the hard hitting power you will need to punch through heavy armor. Plus it has an open fist for power attacks. The Castigator does have combustion going for it, but I think you have plenty of anti- infantry in your list. That makes the extra two points you would spend for Combustion a waste in my opinion. You can use the extra two points to go with a solo like the Vassal which can benefit any jack in your list.

Soylent
12-23-2009, 08:41 AM
The problem is that I've been playing him for over 2 years now and his playstyle simply got old (upkeep EoM, immo,immo,immo,immo/a2a,a2a).
I had zealots back in MK1 days and have a good opinion of them and would have nothing against fielding them with eSevvy, but can't seem to figure out any particular combo with him. I think that they fit better in HR/Testament/Kreoss list (cheap souls/drop and pop). Let's imagine holding position (scenario) - TFG with iron zeal, piper's song and holy ward - they are immune to spells and have around 20 def against charges.


Why such a hate for Castigator? Do combustion, speed of 5 and two hand throw not appeal to you?
Honestly, I don't think that Crusader + vassal can outclass castigator.


eSevy is a ranged jack caster with the occational spell slinging for Influence, Rebuke and Hex Blast. He's tailored for fielding Reckoners, Redeemers and Vanquishers and if you take him without then you're not using him to his potential. Awareness is an extremely potent spell that you should be taking advantage of and the Castigator doesn't really benifit from it. eSevy does just fine with one arc node and since you can't spam Hex Blast you're fine with just a Revenger. If you're looking for a troop combo with him you might try TFG, Daughters or Idrians, all of which like Holy Ward. In a 35 point eSevy list you can easily have a Revenger and two heavy shooters.

But you wanted suggestions as to what casters will work with your jacks not what jacks work with your caster and the only caster that really works with 2 arc nodes is pSevy. One arc node and it's eSevy and Harbinger(though others make take one with some of the other casters). If you're willing to switch up jacks then your options open up but until then your only real option is pSevy.

dcf
12-23-2009, 09:52 AM
Since I don't have much to spend I guess I'll stick to pSeverius. Thanks for your input.

Soylent
12-23-2009, 10:11 AM
Well we're getting a new caster and he might be a spellslinger so keep your fingers crossed.

dcf
12-23-2009, 10:31 AM
Yeah, let's hope that new caster gets more than 4 spells and not just a copy-paste from other casters/locks. I'd buy ten models at once if it were to be true.