Dr. Arkadius spoilers?

[chrsjxn]

I was checking out Battle College earlier this evening, and I noticed that someone added some info to the Dr. Arkadius page. [here] (http://battlecollege.wikispaces.com/mkiidrarkadius)

I know his theme list was already spoiled on Bell of Lost Souls, but I don't know where these new bits of info came from. Are they legit? And if so, do we know anything more?

[Vecilias]

IF it is legit then im VERY HAPPY that we finnally know SOMETHING about the good docter...
And by the way... thats one odd feat but i guess it can be a handy thing if you have controll over it... I guess... oh and I like his multi beast healing capability :D definitly picking up piggies now.

[maxxev]

if that feat is just that then it's pretty rubbish. Just making 1 attack per beast, even if it is all boosted for attacks and damage and you wont be able to use the aggression dial either I guess there is a possibility that it synergies with a spell or ability that is not spoiled.....

[RuneGrey]

if that feat is just that then it's pretty rubbish. Just making 1 attack per beast, even if it is all boosted for attacks and damage and you wont be able to use the aggression dial either I guess there is a possibility that it synergies with a spell or ability that is not spoiled.....

Of course, because having a better feat than eThagrosh as long as you get the positioning part down right isn't all that good, is it?

As it looks like it, it means every one of your beasts gets a free fully boosted attack, but has to respect the frenzy targeting rules. eThag and eStryker are the only ones with similar feats - eStryker affects all models, but only gives 3" and no boosts (but can boost if you have focus), while eThag affects all beasts but gives no boosts (still get Manifest Destiny). Compared to other feats of the type, seems pretty powerful to me.

Will depend of course on if its 'frenzy now' or 'frenzy next turn', but the wording here seems to imply 'immediate frenzy action'.

[maxxev]

Not enough info to make any assumptions on it, but just frenzying means they would loose thier activations and only be able to make one attack, only charge / attack the closest enemy model or possibly friendly, use no animi or special abilities or ranged attacks, not be able to have damage pushed onto them.

THAT seems horrendously bad and infact seems more like suicide.

[bildo]

itll have its uses, to say its rubbish is to just throw your toys out of your pram as you dont have everything you could ever want, this is known as life, it happens. a good player will learn to use his feat. it will be very much like emaddy, run everything then pop feat so they can attack, thus reducing the chances of you having to charge your own forces, its great for that extra threat range. or you can charge, max out on all your beasts, so youd frenzy anyway, then pop feat if youve used agresion dial then it will still take effect. this is great for finishing things of, or if you managed to clear the first wave, you can then move into the second wave or if your lucky thte caster and then flatten them

[maxxev]

itll have its uses, to say its rubbish is to just throw your toys out of your pram as you dont have everything you could ever want, this is known as life, it happens. a good player will learn to use his feat. it will be very much like emaddy, run everything then pop feat so they can attack, thus reducing the chances of you having to charge your own forces, its great for that extra threat range. or you can charge, max out on all your beasts, so youd frenzy anyway, then pop feat if youve used agresion dial then it will still take effect. this is great for finishing things of, or if you managed to clear the first wave, you can then move into the second wave or if your lucky thte caster and then flatten them

If we are assuming you can activate the beasts first THEN pop the feat then, it's insanly good, I just assumed you'd have to follow the standard frezy rules and therefore, you don't frenzy until the next turn....

Need more info before I can make a judgement on Arkady, this is only and un-confirmed rumour anyhow.

[whats82]

If that's true that's pretty cool, it just dictates that you have to activate Dr. A after the beasts have activated and positioned for a correct frenzy.

Side effect : fury control. After a frenzy a beast can elect to lose up to all of its fury, so you can max out all the beasts then feat and bring them down to level you can manage, which is pretty cool.

[Space Donkey]

Yeah as long as the feat is immediate Frenzy then it is nuts good. Pushing 4 War Hogs to the max with Aggression Dial and Massacre, the popping feat to push them that much further and wipe their fury. This can be a great way to just cripple your opponent's army. I really like the potential on the healing spell as well. A tier 4 list at 35 points can run 4 War Hogs and a Gun Boar so that would be quite a bit of carnage on feat turn.

[Lanz]

Wouldn't frenzying at the end of your activation be super-awesome, since you'll just recover from it next round? isn't just a free move/charge + fully-boosted attack if the beast has already activated that turn? More over, doesn't it allow you to run really hot on the beasts since they're guarenteed to frenzy out of sequence, thus the effect ending before it would normally be dealt with, leaving no real drawbacks?

[FearLord]

not be able to have damage pushed onto them.



Frenzying doesn't do that anymore - the effect ends after the Frenzy attack...

If this works as an instant Frenzy move and attack (or even a "after all models have activated" type of deal) this could be really good... Definitely makes me think seriously about 3 War Hogs for his tier list...

So so excited to see what else he can do!

[sanj]

The guy who posted the battle college entry is called 'Syprus'.
Does anyone know of him?
I asked where he got the info and he said he was PP staff.

Do you believe in life after love?

[Reemule]

Huh...

If the frenzy is immediate then this is something. You could have the beasts go, build focus, do essentially a 1 big turn, then have them all frenzy, go again, and dump all that focus.

His mind control gun is interesting. I suspect it would be like dominate, or seduce. Shoot, take control, move, attack.

I'm counting on his gun to make counter blast worth something.

[mikethefish]

Well since the Battle College poster referred to his Feat as giving a "free" move and "extra" attacks, I think it's pretty safe to assume that its an out-of-sequence Frenzy that happens on the instant he Feats - or at least on the turn he Feats.

[FearLord]

Also, this feat sounds like the battle group ability he uses in the Legion fluff... So no Unearthly Rage... The dream is over! :p

[Reemule]

So far pretty encouraging stuff. His description in the legion book makes me think he also has a battlegroup buff spell, and a single target buff for a beast.

I'm hoping for 7 focus on him.

[Krom]

If wording is correct, feat is all friendly warbeasts which includes Brine and other allied warlocks' warbeasts, right?

Also, I'm not convinced his needle gun is a ranged gun and not a melee weapon. I hope it's both, but it when they use the word injection, I guess I don't picture a ranged attack but that might just be me. I guess different "ammos" would mean ranged attack, so I hope I'm wrong on my first impression of the gun. Please give it range 10 or more.

Love what I'm seeing as long as the feat allows extra attacks in a addition to a beast's normal activation sequence.

Hopefully Dr. A's other spells are impressive. 7-8 Fury would be great for him, too. I'm reluctant to buy 3 of any warbeast, but if this proves correct, I just might have to pull the trigger on a 3rd War Hog just to do the 4th Tier Arkadian list.

-K

[FearLord]

So far pretty encouraging stuff. His description in the legion book makes me think he also has a battlegroup buff spell, and a single target buff for a beast.

I'm hoping for 7 focus on him.

The description has him boosting their aggression which would seem to be the feat (making them all Frenzy), but hopefully he does have a decent battlegroup spell as well...

[Antigonus]

Looking at what's been put up there, I wouldn't be surprised if these are just guesses based on the flavour text (and possibly Legion fiction).

[Murch]

I doubt it would be posted in Battle College if it were guesses. I think it was a unique way of leaking info on PP's part, to build up some hype on Farrow (as many are down on them with all the good, Gator stuff). I mean from a business stand point it's smart, the holidays are coming and the Minions book may come out too late for a Farrow wish list.

I also liked the extra healing spell, which is what I thought he might have by reading info on him- "Constantly striving to create ever more terrible warbeasts, strengthening their bodies, making them more aggressive, and healing their wounds in battle."
I think it is what's to come and am very happy. I personally think the War Hog is by far the best looking beast in the game (my Circle wolves will be jealous of this:)) and he's surely not going to be sitting on the shelf much.

[Antigonus]

I doubt it would be posted in Battle College if it were guesses. I think it was a unique way of leaking info on PP's part, to build up some hype on Farrow (as many are down on them with all the good, Gator stuff). I mean from a business stand point it's smart, the holidays are coming and the Minions book may come out too late for a Farrow wish list.

Given BattleCollege is a Wiki, I'm taking any information posted on there prior to release with an entire sack of salt - as opposed to the mere teaspoon I take when listening to general rumours.

Far too easy to edit what you think is right, with (as far as I could tell) no requirement that you provide evidence or context.

[Murch]

Take it the way you'd like, it doesn't really matter until the model comes out anyway. It's just specualtion, there's nothing gained or lossed by it:)

[ColdYinTiger]

I hope Ark ends up similar to what is shown in Battle College, though I have had to fix some things on there, and how it is stated it almost sounds like the info on there for him was "Heard from a friend who heard it from a friend." sort of thing. I do hope more spoilers outside of his tiers come out soon.

[Fellio]

Even with the feat, War Hogs are still only charging seven inches.

[FearLord]

Even with the feat, War Hogs are still only charging seven inches.

Except you could run 8" first if it works as speculated which would give you 15.5" threat on a single fully boosted attack... Or Arkadius could cast Massacre on one first, have it charge and then have it charge again during its activation... There are lots of potential uses for this, and we're got no idea about the majority of his spells or other abilities...

[Fellio]

Oh, it wasn't a doom and gloom comment. I'm just a little iffy since Carver gives so many huge bonuses to everything the farrow can take; that if Arkadius will actually have the power to keep his army as strong as Carver does.
I'll pick him up; and if he is to my liking, I may pick up a third or maybe even fourth War Hog.

[Asp]

Wonder if War Hog wil become a type as future Heavy Warbeast release? Kind of like the troll bloods have so many versions of the Dire Troll. Model selection wise they really are the most comparable to the Farrow..... As much as I like the War Hog sculpt can't see doing more than two of them.

-Asp

[Krom]

Hope that's the case. I really hope even more that Dr. A can get more than 7" range out of a War Hog charge when all the dust settles on his potential spells and how his feat is worded and actually works. 7" is back to the old Rhulic days, which meant your heavies were getting boxed before doing anything. So far, Dr. A looks pretty darn good, but Carver raised the bar above normal with his range of abilities. -K

[Lord of Cthul]

The Feat has to have some more wording to it to make it super awesome. As of right now It's not horrible, but not that top notch awesome that I was hoping. I do like that he shoots the needles and such =P.

-Kyle Dalton

[Krom]

Man, I expected more info, input, and/or confirmation on this after the long holiday weekend. Guess everyone is still hung over from Black Friday or something.

Can't wait to get some more spoilers on Dr. A. Most of us Farrow players have all of our eggs in his basket as far as making the farrow interesting enough to continue with, especially considering the extremely limited model selection. -K

[Dan from Chicago]

Wonder if War Hog wil become a type as future Heavy Warbeast release? Kind of like the troll bloods have so many versions of the Dire Troll. Model selection wise they really are the most comparable to the Farrow..... As much as I like the War Hog sculpt can't see doing more than two of them.

-Asp

Unlikely, or there'd be more to the name; there's no such thing as a vanilla Dire Troll or Warpwolf, they all have additional descriptive elements: Dire Troll (Mauler/Blitzer/Bomber), (Feral/Pureblood) Warpwolf (Stalker)

[IRSMARTLIKEROCK]

It'll probably be (War) Hog; by that line of reasoning.

[Soul King]

or (Gun) Boar

[mikethefish]

Unlikely, or there'd be more to the name; there's no such thing as a vanilla Dire Troll or Warpwolf, they all have additional descriptive elements: Dire Troll (Mauler/Blitzer/Bomber), (Feral/Pureblood) Warpwolf (Stalker)

Yeah like others mentioned, "War Hog" probably isn't the "race" name. More likely it's just "Hog" with "War" being the descriptive element. In the future, there could be Blitz Hogs, Blaster Hogs, Iron Hogs, Hog of the Apocalypse... yeah just spitballing names there lol, but you get the idea. No doubt, "Boar" will be similar with something like "Axe Boar" or "Shield Boar" coming around in the future.

Simple naming convention for a blunt and practical race.

[Krom]

Just saw Dr. A is now considered "released" as opposed to "upcoming release" on PP front page (along with Gator Calaban). Does anyone know the date he actually released this month, and the Minion book, too? I'd sure love Neal to have him in the mail to me this or next week so we can all see what he'll bring to the tabletop. -T

[MagnustheJust]

/sad caimen

This had my hopes up for some spoilers for Calaban or the GoToD
{Grumpy old Turtle of Doom}

[Mod_Faultie]

I believe the release date is the 8th, but I'm not positive.

[Cannibalbob]

I believe the release date is the 8th, but I'm not positive.

The date listed under his entry in the gallery is dec 22

[Mod_Faultie]

The date listed under his entry in the gallery is dec 22
Well, don't I feel sheepish, then.

[thebarbalag]

Anybody else notice that FOH: Minions isn't listed with the new releases on the front page with the rest of the December releases? Has there been a delay and I missed the announcements?

[MagnustheJust]

As far as I have seen {and I looked!!} there has been no delay announcement for the Minion book.

But I just checked Malefic, and even that have a question mark for the actual release date, other than this month...

@ Faultie :

It is Calaban that is set to release next week on the 8th...

[Krom]

Surely somebody has gone thru PP's trash bin and is sifting thru the hard evidence as far as Dr. A's abilities, right? I keep checking this forum each day with the hopes that Dr. A's info from a source with a good reliability is posted somewhere.

PP did an admirable job keeping Calaban spoilers under wraps until his official release date. I wonder if they put the clamps on some of the juicy sources of spoilers in the past??????

Here's to hoping Dr. A knocks our collective pork socks off! Two weeks and counting, right (Dec 22)? -K

[Lanz]

I suspect he has something that improves the MAT/RAT/DEF/CMD of infantry, since his fluff in the LoE book mentions he is trying to improve farrow mentally.

[Reign]

I show the book and Dr. A as a Dec 22 release.

-BA

[Duckboy]

Dec. 22nd, Damn that is late. Oh well, at least i can get it before christmas.

[MrChomperz]

I want to know about him so much more now that caliban has released. This guy is the reason I picked up minions. I can't wait to run a list of 5 warhogs at 35 points. Oh man am I excited.

[Gothgar]

I want to know about him so much more now that caliban has released. This guy is the reason I picked up minions. I can't wait to run a list of 5 warhogs at 35 points. Oh man am I excited.
there is a special place in hell for the likes of you!!!

jhahah

[Krom]

I want to know about him so much more now that caliban has released. This guy is the reason I picked up minions. I can't wait to run a list of 5 warhogs at 35 points. Oh man am I excited.

I just hope he's diverse and complex enough to play in more than one way. Tough to say with only 2 available beasts and 1 unit of combat troops (Bonegrinders don't count). he better buff both beasts and troops, or buff the hell out of beasts if he's gonna be able to compete and keep our attention for long. I hope all of his special rules fill an entire second card. -K

[MrChomperz]

Since he will be the "beast caster" for thornfall I am super hoping he is +6 WB points, allowing his T1 to hold 3 warhogs at 15 points.

Oh and fur collars for everyone.

[Krom]

It just kills me that they gave the War Hogs SPD 4. In light of that, I hope he has a speed/charge buff that adds some range ala Carver's Mobility to warbeasts. The +2 SPD on first turn is OK for his Tier list, but that doesn't help you later in the game when you really need the extra range for charges, slams, tramples, etc. SPD Buff pretty please. -K

[DevonV]

I want to know about him so much more now that caliban has released. This guy is the reason I picked up minions. I can't wait to run a list of 5 warhogs at 35 points. Oh man am I excited.

Damn, man, I stopped at 4. You need a few Brigands in there to gum things up while the Hogs get into position! :)

Cyberbacon is awesome.

[Krom]

I've never owned more than 2 of any beast/jack, but I own 3 Warhogs. I can't bring myself to buy a 4th. My 2nd Dire Troll Mauler just collects dust, and I told myself I'd never make that mistake again. With such a limited warbeast selection, I didn't feel like I had the option in this case, especially as I hope to be able to meet minimum Dr. A tier list requirements. The awesome sculpt made the decisions a lot easier. Here's to hoping Dr. A gives the War Hog all kinds of love. -K

[Oranje]

Had a very quick look at the card. Wish my memory was better, but the feat is as rumoured (beasts frenzy) and the spell list is beast focussed, with a handy pDenny disabling grip spell, and a spell that lets you use your warbeast as a semi-arc node for casting it, and one that is one-per-turn only that lets you heal your beasts.

He can also steal fury from friendly beasts during his activation, in exchange for damaging them.

Sorry I didn't get much more than that in the time I had.

[mikethefish]

Did you mean that Arkadius has Crippling Grasp? If so... holy crap

[tsochung]

more please

[Oranje]

Like I said I don?t remember much, probably the only things I forgot to add were fury=carver +1, and one of the effects of the needle gun was causing stationary. Don?t remember range or anything like that.

Mikefish?I was trying to be obscure (as we?re seemingly meant to), but yes.

[TinRobot]

If those rumors are true Dr. Arkadius is going to be one awesome warlock. I look forward to seeing his full stats soon.

[PUFNSTUF]

This is good, should make the complainers saying hogs aren't as good as gators stop complaining.

[maxxev]

Still not enough info to warrent pre-ordering it after the sham of the Horgenhold Artillery.

[tsochung]

... and a spell that lets you use your warbeast as a semi-arc node for casting it ....


is it primal shock ?

[Zeppelin07]

Soul Slave sounds better!

[Mod_Faultie]

Still not enough info to warrent pre-ordering it after the sham of the Horgenhold Artillery.
Ah. So I'm not the only one being more cautious these days? Good.

[relasine]

Crippling Grasp/Soul Slave would actually be really good, and would even continue to make Brigands and Gun Boars an attractive option. At 5 points, Gun Boars are the cheapest option for a forward, sacrificial element, and shots on a unit with Crippling Grasp would be effective RAT 7, POW 15 with POW 9 blasts. For Brigands, RAT 7, POW 14 shots are pretty excellent.

[Cronix]

1 or 2 weeks than we know what rules he has and if there are other units and solos.

But if this spoiler is true, than Dr. Arkadius will be full of win.

[lastspartacus]

Stop making Cryx casters! >-<
Need moar originality, sig spells used to be worth something :p

But really, that is awesome. I'm glad he has something so nasty, but I worry about his ability to cast it without dying.

Is this the first non-wilding human with fury manipulation?

[whats82]

So..

Feat : all friendly beast in control area frenzy (assuming bypass 1 activation per turn rule)
Gun : cause stationary
Spells : soul slave, crippling grasp, something that heals all beasts d3+1
Ability : maltreat

Pretty good so far !

[Krom]

Dr. A Def, spd, Arm? Curious how much dmg to beasts to reave fury during Dr A's activation? Also curious how many of his spells/abilities will benefit Rorsh and Brine. K

[Rave0183]

Had a very quick look at the card. Wish my memory was better, but the feat is as rumoured (beasts frenzy) and the spell list is beast focussed, with a handy pDenny disabling grip spell, and a spell that lets you use your warbeast as a semi-arc node for casting it, and one that is one-per-turn only that lets you heal your beasts.

He can also steal fury from friendly beasts during his activation, in exchange for damaging them.

Sorry I didn't get much more than that in the time I had.

I read these as two seperate things here. I would Love...and hate to see a soul slave crippling grasp caster. But I'm putting my money on Cripp Grasp and Primal Shock being the second listed here. People already have enough hard time with Denny's spell and the cryx arcnodes, I don't see them handing it out again. But here's hoping they do...and at the same time praying they dont.

[IRSMARTLIKEROCK]

I read these as two seperate things here. I would Love...and hate to see a soul slave crippling grasp caster. But I'm putting my money on Cripp Grasp and Primal Shock being the second listed here. People already have enough hard time with Denny's spell and the cryx arcnodes, I don't see them handing it out again. But here's hoping they do...and at the same time praying they dont.

But Primal Shock kind of sucks, I believe Aggression Dial is only during Activation so you wouldn't benefit when using Primal Shock.

[Oranje]

Yes, crippling grasp and the other one are two separate spells, you can't arc crippling grasp.

Sorry for not getting all the names and stats, I was lucky to see as much as I did :)

[dicegod]

I have seen his card.

SPD? I want to say 5
MAT? Not sure, he has gun fighter, I don't think he has a melee weapon
RAT? I want to say 6
DEF= pSeverius+1
ARM = pSeverius
FURY = pSeverius -1

Gun Fighter
Maltreatment
Unknown Name - the needle gun has no POW, it always deals one point of damage. No limitations ie Anatomical.

His needle gun has a three rules
1) stationary
2) basically seduction (living non-warcaster, non warlock, warrior model). I might be wrong, but I think he can arc through said model.
3) ???

Spells

Psychotherapy?
Cost 1 (might be 2 but I am almost certain it is 1)
Heal all beasts in control d3+1. Once per turn.

Crippling Grasp

Spell that gives target beast Hyper Aggressive... See eThags

Forced Evolution

Primal Shock


Feat - all beasts immediately frenzy even if they have already activated.

[Mod_Faultie]

Thanks for that, Dicegod!
He looks like he'll be pretty groovy, and between Forced Evolution and Crippling Grasp, Warhogs should be able to pulverize the jeebus out of stuff.

[lastspartacus]

STOP MAKING CRYX CASTERS! >-<


But anyway, so, uh...Carver is the shield and Arkadius is the sword? Cant tell their difference in playstyle.

[The Happy Anarchist]

But Primal Shock kind of sucks, I believe Aggression Dial is only during Activation so you wouldn't benefit when using Primal Shock.

Thank your lucky stars that Primal Shock is only base Str. You don't want eDoomy dropping Pow 17 magic attacks for 2 fury. (Mulg 13 + Rage 3 + 1 for the Krielstone aura)

[JolliXeno]

I'm doubting it, but does anyone know if he can use his needle gun's special abilities if he used it during a counter blast attack? Making a enemy big hitter stationary after they move up or charge would be amazing!

[mikethefish]

What does Forced Evolution do?

EDIT - nevermind, found it on Battle College.

The interesting thing is that given his abilities, I wouldn't really call him a "Beast Caster" in the way that he wants an army of nearly all beasts to be effective. I wouldn't really run many more beasts on him than I would on Carver personally, even given how his Feat works. He needs cool warbeasts in order to run, but not a huge amount of them. It's not like he has the warbeast version of Full Throttle or anything.

[Cardboard]

So yeah, no SPD or ARM buff? Can't feat and then activate for extra range? How are you supposed to actually get any attacks in?

[JolliXeno]

Forced Evolution gives +2 Def and Str. And the no SPD or ARM buffs is why you use his tiers. With 7 point warhogs, you can afford to throw one away to feed the others. :D Either that, or you run all your cheap warhogs, then feat and shove them all down your opponets throat so they can't deal with all of them. Heal the survivors with his spell, and then trash them in retaliation.

[Krom]

Love Dr. A's spoilers, but keeping him alive will be challenging with so few support models. -K

[JolliXeno]

It seems to me that 3-4 warhogs would work really well on him. One will hit like a freight train. Crippling Grasp will help them hit a high defense target. Feat would let you push them all, and then feat to wipe fury on one of them and get a bit of alpha strike (denying them the charge is better than them getting it). Opponents will also have to focus kill each warhog completely as it's going to be no problem to really heal all of them from only one point left to fully functional or heal off nickle and dimed work. If by a miracle he can use the sationary ability of his with a counter blast attack (and it has a decent range) he could effectively stop two enemy heavies from doing much. Grippling grasp one, and then stationary the other after it moves/charges his forces.

[ColinT]

Anyone know the range on his needle gun? Third ammo type?

I think he looks pretty cool, feat looks interesting. You'll really have to move your hogs carfully before you pop your feat, so you dont hurt your own boys.

[relasine]

The combination of Aggression Dial, Crippling Grasp, and Forced Evolution is just crazy. War Hogs will effectively be able to hit with effective P+S 22 cleavers. At the very least, heavy armor won't be a problem.

[tsochung]

But Primal Shock kind of sucks, I believe Aggression Dial is only during Activation so you wouldn't benefit when using Primal Shock.
Aggression Dial actually last for a turn but it really doesn't matter since a model's base str never change

[The Happy Anarchist]

So yeah, no SPD or ARM buff? Can't feat and then activate for extra range? How are you supposed to actually get any attacks in?

I imagine the idea is the same way all other factions that don't have a higher threat range do it. Layered lines of troops and/or sacrificial pawns, or just survivability. Killing 3 Warhogs is probably easier said than done for most factions. Especially with a heal all his beasts spell.

[Reemule]

Maltreatment seems to make his Healing spell essentially free.

Unnatural aggression is a nice one. If you have that on a warhog. It could theoretically advance in the maintence phase, Charge, do its business, feat, For a 18 threat range range thats pretty hard deal with.

Aggresion dial and forced evolution combining for a power 20 on cleavers is fairly efficent.

Primal Shock is just Groovy Boosted power 11's from a War Hog, or 8 from a Gunboar.

Overall, I'm looking forward to trying him.

[Reemule]

My first thought is to run him with 2 Warhogs and 2 Gunboars.

Forced Evolution isn't Battlegroup... Hello Brine with Def 14, and Power 16 fists, and Power 17 Gore attacks...

[relasine]

Forced Evolution isn't Battlegroup... Hello Brine with Def 14, and Power 16 fists, and Power 17 Gore attacks...
Good catch. Let's hope the feat isn't Battlegroup either. Upkeep Forced Evolution on Brine, move him forward with Diversionary Tactic, run to the enemy caster, smack him with a fully-boosted P+S 17.

[Reemule]

I think Brine's Animus is for a turn. So possibly if he is affected by the frenzy feat, that hit could be with 4d6 damage...

Now, dare we hope for 7 wb points. And, I'm hoping for some 16+ wounds....

[JolliXeno]

I think Brine's animus is for one round.

[dicegod]

I'm fairly certain it did not stipulate battle group. It was a very short feat. I think it was called Monster Madness or something like that.

I can't remember his third ammo type or his range sorry. I really should have checked the range but I was more focussed on the spells/feat.

[TomTwice]

6 WB points

[Thunder_God]

Aren't the three ammo types psychotic venom (Corruptor, Calaban), Seduction and Stationary?

Now, some thoughts:
1. He's a bit like pMorghoul, in that he's not exactly a warbeast caster, just that he does very little for warriors.
Heck, Carver has two battlegroup spells!
2. He seems cut from the same mold as Calaban. One with Parasite, one with Crippling Grasp, both with semi arcing? Unlike Calaban, I don't read him and go "He seems fun!". He might be, this is about what it seems. Note, this is about fun, not power-level.
3. His feat really is interesting, a move, an attack, and fury-management. Would've been much cooler with lessers or 3 pt lights, such as the Bull Snapper. If feat is not Faction, could be amusing to combine with eThagrosh's feat.
4. If he can stationary out of activation, using Counterblast, then he's the first really good counterblast target.
5. Seems with his feat you'll be sacrificing Bone Grinders for the feated Gun Boars ;)
6. Seems to me they can frenzy even if they activated, but they can't activate post Feat-Frenzy. This, sadly, means that Arkadius will not be able to cast Forced Evolution on two models per turn, or juggle Crippling Grasp before his beasts activate. It'd be beasts, Arkadius, spells, feat, feat attacks.

[maxxev]

Sounding great to me, pre-order time.

[TomTwice]

I only had a brief look at the cards, but I do believe the feat said that beasts could still activate as normal after the feat

[Mod_Faultie]

I only had a brief look at the cards, but I do believe the feat said that beasts could still activate as normal after the feat
What?! If this is true, that's super awesome.

[Tonio]

The Feat works if you already activated, and you can still activate after it. Don't remember if it's Battlegroup only or not.

Speed is same as Carver

Mat is Speed-1

The Needle "Gun" is not a gun. It's a melee weapon. Works only on living models.

The 3rd "ammo" removes the ability to use spell or something like that for a Round.

Healing spell costs 2, and is battlegroup, so affects Arkadius himself. Once per turn max.

[MrChomperz]

Doc Ark is looking like he will be my favorite caster ever. I can't wait to read his fluff and get him painted. I will need to order anouther three war hogs now though...

The winning list at 35 is gooing to be like 4 hogs.

[lastspartacus]

Pretty lame sig spell if it really costs 2. its like regeneration that isnt even better until you have more than 2 beasts.

[Krom]

So Dr. A is a different sort of beast caster. Reminds me a little of eDoomy. I'm still trying to get myself around how his feat turn (and the set up turn immediately before) will work, both with him feating first before any beasts have activated, and the times where it's best to feat after his beasts have already activated.

I wish his feat and heal spell affected Brine, but oh well. -K

[relasine]

The winning list at 35 is gooing to be like 4 hogs.
Which is disappointing. I had big hopes for a third warbeast in the Forces book so that I wouldn't feel shoved in that direction, particularly when a third farrow warbeast is released and one of the those four War Hogs is eventually shelved...