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geneticdeviant
11-30-2010, 11:16 AM
looking to build up to 25 points, what should i add to the cryx battlegroup to bring it up to 25 points?

blakeh1
11-30-2010, 11:39 AM
Keeping the battlebox in tact and just expanding there are a couple branches you could take (and still have models that will work with any caster should you decide to expand on casters)

you can go the bane route and pick up Tartarus and a min unit of Bane Knights (leaving you with 1 point)
or Tartarus and a min unit of Bane Thralls (leaving you with 2 points, which you can spend on a Skarlock)

or you could go the mechanithrall route and get a max unit of mechanithralls and a necrosurgeon. This leaves 4 extra points. You could probably add a Warwitch Siren and a Skarlock with those 4 points to round out the list

At some point though you'll probably out grow the Slayer, especially as you move up in points beyond 25 and you'll want to start thinking about picking up the Deathjack or Nightmare

Also adding a Pistol Wraith or 2 is a good option with Deneghra.

Above 25, if you went the Bane kinght route, you'll start expanding out to a max unit and if using Bane thralls adding the UA and possibly expanding to a max unit.

If you went the mechanithrall route, you could possibly think about adding the Withershadow Combine or some banes once your ventrue above 25 pts

Tčarion
11-30-2010, 12:06 PM
I would vote for a Skarlock. Deneghra loves him.

A really solid base and choice are the mentioned Bane Thralls + UA and Tartarus. They screen her very well and hit very hard.

Deneghra does not really need a Heavy and you should also consider afore mentioned Warwitch Siren or two.

Kuwanger23
11-30-2010, 12:50 PM
Here are some units and casters that work well with a lot of our casters. I believe you wills see some repetition in my list from prior posts.

Solo:

Siren
Skarlock
Tartarus


Units:

Mech thralls (unit attachments if ya want)
Necro Surgeon (assume you mech thralls cost 2 more points always if not 4 lol)
Bane thralls
Bane thrall UA
Bane knights

Things like pistol wraiths are good but work well with only a select few casters. Not to say they are bad with the others, but they synergize well with pDeneghra and eSkarre. Satyxis units are also pretty useful as they are fast and often will get the alpha strike. Of course the easier question is "what units don't I want to get right away" lol. But honestly it really depends on what route you are taking. Personally I have survived many years without the mechanithralls and was purely banes for most of my career until recently. So I think Tartarus with the bane thralls and UA are a safe and solid choice. I of course am a huge fan of bane knights but they are more tricky to use as they do not have stealth.

Madsiomai
11-30-2010, 03:11 PM
for a quick fix--I'd get pGaspy since he also works well with the battlebox, then you'd have 2 points extra--enough for either a skarlock or warwitch siren (for 15 point games)

pGaspy and pDenny can use almost the same armies but with just a simple warcaster change, the playstyle changes!

Deo85
11-30-2010, 03:56 PM
I add to the routs to take that the Satixeys raider captain / UA / Raiders are easily a good force to take if you want to hit fast and in the confusion snip in the killing assassin run.

I was in a smiler spot and am at a 35 pnt list that has worked out pretty solid for me. I went the bane thralls min + UA + Tartarus with the combine to back ppl up. I dropped the slayer for the death jack and picked up Skarlock. From my playing this force is amazing at what they do. I tried the nightmare first before moving to the deathjack because I loved the jack style but found it way to needy for focus to really be affective unit with Denegra drain on focus she loves to use for her self.