Moonova
12-24-2009, 09:19 AM
I see there is issue with warspears but what about mongers?
I know we are not supposed to compare units but stat wise they compare with the other hordes units. There really isn't that much difference it seems the rules are what make the others better. Cet get shield wall (but point wise the PAY for it) Ravagers who have a extra man at the same price have lower armour but get better def (even more in trees). I think heart eater is slightly better then berserk but that is a personal thing more then anything else (just lets you decide when or how you want to berserk and against who). Mongers get the greatest pow unless charging.
Over all I still think Gatormen are the best multi wound unit. Not many spells help them but Saeryn's mirror magic may and breath stealer helps them just as much as Mongers. Carnivore (Abys) gets them the same (as Mongers) Mat 9 but their blood thrist lets them reroll a miss. Rhyas can't increase their speed where she can with mongers, but if it is a living unit Gatormen still go further. Chiller doesn't help them were mongers are effective Mat 9. again mat 7 with reroll vs. berserk with Mat 9 hard to say. Ethag/pThag both bump up mongers but don't help gators and Lyl does nothing for either. This is just spells nothing to do with feats. Gator men get 2 attacks still.
One of the reasons to take in faction models over mercs/minions is the help casters/locks give them. I still see gatormen greater then Mongers.
Now I am not sure how to feedback as I don't understand what PP wants. I have no idea what their vision is. I mean I read the fluff and see the rules and think wth that makes no sense. Without knowing what they are looking for I can't see how I can help them. This statement isn't for mongers but everything as a whole.
I am just putting it out there before some one asks if I have done feed back yes I have done one and the model changed but not in the way I had hoped/suspected/envisioned so I stand by my belief. that isn't to say i am upset by the change it just not what I expected.
I know we are not supposed to compare units but stat wise they compare with the other hordes units. There really isn't that much difference it seems the rules are what make the others better. Cet get shield wall (but point wise the PAY for it) Ravagers who have a extra man at the same price have lower armour but get better def (even more in trees). I think heart eater is slightly better then berserk but that is a personal thing more then anything else (just lets you decide when or how you want to berserk and against who). Mongers get the greatest pow unless charging.
Over all I still think Gatormen are the best multi wound unit. Not many spells help them but Saeryn's mirror magic may and breath stealer helps them just as much as Mongers. Carnivore (Abys) gets them the same (as Mongers) Mat 9 but their blood thrist lets them reroll a miss. Rhyas can't increase their speed where she can with mongers, but if it is a living unit Gatormen still go further. Chiller doesn't help them were mongers are effective Mat 9. again mat 7 with reroll vs. berserk with Mat 9 hard to say. Ethag/pThag both bump up mongers but don't help gators and Lyl does nothing for either. This is just spells nothing to do with feats. Gator men get 2 attacks still.
One of the reasons to take in faction models over mercs/minions is the help casters/locks give them. I still see gatormen greater then Mongers.
Now I am not sure how to feedback as I don't understand what PP wants. I have no idea what their vision is. I mean I read the fluff and see the rules and think wth that makes no sense. Without knowing what they are looking for I can't see how I can help them. This statement isn't for mongers but everything as a whole.
I am just putting it out there before some one asks if I have done feed back yes I have done one and the model changed but not in the way I had hoped/suspected/envisioned so I stand by my belief. that isn't to say i am upset by the change it just not what I expected.