Tricky tricks

[Karam]

I wonder what some of the less obvious tricks people have been using are. The other day I came up with this one the other day and found it useful.

Units Storm Fall archers + HG Halberdiers
I like on occasion to run my archers behind my halberdiers.
so from this position You can run 1-4 haberdiers out of formation Or just charge against any non-reach unit placing them just out of the units melee range (not the full 2" more like a little less than an inch. Then shoot them in the back gaining back strike bonus to hit. with the archers using star fall. This lights them and everything they are engaging on fire. Part of this tactic is that your opponent will suffer the consequences of fire first. Allowing you halberdier tostill do his job(block charge lanes and soak up attacks). And he is still not totally ignorable if he happens to be in command range still, as his fire could go out.
Is it situational? sure but its still a useful option.

[Lazlo]

But that's still RAT 5 needing a direct hit on DEF 15.

[Karam]

But that's still RAT 5 needing a direct hit on DEF 15.

Aiming bonus +2 Backstrike +2 and def 13 so effective def 9.

[Lazlo]

Aiming bonus +2 Backstrike +2 and def 13 so effective def 9.

Ok, I wasn't counting aiming, but it's still DEF 13 with in-melee penalty.

[Redphantasm]

Rat 5 vs Def 13

+2 Aiming,
+2 Backstrike
-4 In Melee

So it's a straight up attack, assuming you aim.

My worry is more that you will find that the enemy is not very affected by the AOE. As the 1.5" radius AOE is centered on a 1.2" base (0.6" radius) you have only a 0.9" wide area where enemies can be set on fire. You'd have to run the Halbardier into B2B with some pretty good things to risk a move like this.

[Karam]

Rat 5 vs Def 13

+2 Aiming,
+2 Backstrike
-4 In Melee

So it's a straight up attack, assuming you aim.

My worry is more that you will find that the enemy is not very affected by the AOE. As the 1.5" radius AOE is centered on a 1.2" base (0.6" radius) you have only a 0.9" wide area where enemies can be set on fire. You'd have to run the Halbardier into B2B with some pretty good things to risk a move like this.

Did my math wrong on the radius's. Any one else have anything specific?

[ar2]

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[Lazlo]

Rat 5 vs Def 13

+2 Aiming,
+2 Backstrike
-4 In Melee

So it's a straight up attack, assuming you aim.

My worry is more that you will find that the enemy is not very affected by the AOE. As the 1.5" radius AOE is centered on a 1.2" base (0.6" radius) you have only a 0.9" wide area where enemies can be set on fire. You'd have to run the Halbardier into B2B with some pretty good things to risk a move like this.

Yeah, I agree.

It seems I'd rather just be shooting the enemy model, assuming it's not a high defense one. But even DEF 14 would be easier to hit from the front if you get the aiming bonus. And considering how close you have to get the halberdier to affect the enemy with the radius, it's not an unlikely thing. This also has the benefit of not killing one of my models to just get Fire on a couple of his.

[Karam]

Yeah, I agree.

It seems I'd rather just be shooting the enemy model, assuming it's not a high defense one. But even DEF 14 would be easier to hit from the front if you get the aiming bonus. And considering how close you have to get the halberdier to affect the enemy with the radius, it's not an unlikely thing. This also has the benefit of not killing one of my models to just get Fire on a couple of his.
Yea its garbage, but for correction a lone halberdier is only def13.

[Lazlo]

Yea its garbage, but for correction a lone halberdier is only def13.

Nobody said it wasn't.

[Lazlo]

Now something you could do is run the halberdier up to just outside melee range of some non-reach models and have him face back towards your archers.

Then you would be shooting at his base DEF 13 without the in-melee penalty. With aiming that would be effective DEF 11.

I still don't think it's very useful, but there it is.

[Karam]

A rifleman would be a better choice were this ever used.

[Lazlo]

Yeah, you could get the backstrike bonus with them, but I'm not likely to be using my riflemen as a screening unit for my archers.