Gator Tiers..

[Reemule]

From Focus and Fury. Could be right.

Calaban
Can Take: minion non character gator warbeasts, bog trog ambushers, farrow bone grinders, gatorman units, croak hunters,
feralgeists, gatorman solos, wrong eye and snapjaw
Tier 1:standard
benefit: Hard to see stuff the first turn.
tier 2: the army includes 1 or more farrow bone grinder units
benefit: feralgeists in this army gain we will move before the game starts
tier 3: the army includes the Lesser Minion caster
benefit: wrong eye and warbeasts in his battlegrou gain advance deployment.additionally reduce the points cost of light warbeasts
in wrong eye's battlegroup by a Stormsmith's cost and of heavy beasts in his battlegroup by Nayl's cost
tier 4: calaban's battlegroup includes A&H's point cost or more warbeasts
benefit: your deployment zone is extended 2 inches forward

Barnabus
Can Take: minion non character gator warbeasts, bog trog ambushers, gatorman units, croak hunters,
gatorman solos, wrong eye and snapjaw
tier 1: standard
benefit: gatorman posse. Take as many as you want.
tier 2: the army includes one or more bog trog ambusher units
benefit: you get a better chance to decide to go first or second.
tier 3: the army includes 2 or more gatorman posse units
benefit: for every two gatorman posse unit in the army,place a standard water feature.
Tier 4: Barnabus' battlegroup contains three or more heavy beasts
benefit: reduce the point cost of heavy warbeasts in barnabus' battlegroup by the cost of some Swamp Gobbo's

[MagnustheJust]

With the exception of the bone grinders{weird option, but...}, this sounds good to me!
Now I just need one more thing...


MOAR GATORS!!!!

[Not Dice]

Calaban with Bone Grinders? Seems strange. What's the source here?

[Reemule]

Focus and Fury boards.

I'm not shocked at Bonegrinders. Its a win win for Caliban, Help on the battlefield and Food storage.

[Reemule]

I think the best is in Caliban's list a 2 point Bull snapper. That gives you 4 Spiny Growths per turn if Caliban has a Bull Snapper also.

And bull Snappers are so silly good on focus, they might as well been made for this particular setup.

[Thunder_God]

They're only 2 pt if you put them on Wrongeye. And if you give a snapper to Calaban, you can get to a lot more Spiny Growths per turn (+4 on non-feat turn).

[Duckboy]

I would give each 1 bull and both have it. I have to see what the bone grinders actually do. Hopefully they aren't worthless.

[FearLord]

2pt Bull Snappers only if taken in Wrong Eye's battlegroup...

[Reemule]

You are going to want them for Craft Talismen for Caliban. +2 to spell range.

[MagnustheJust]

I would give each 1 bull and both have it. I have to see what the bone grinders actually do. Hopefully they aren't worthless.

Bone Grinders steal dead warbeasts' animi, and can boost the range of a warlock's spells.

Also, they make a nice snack for Calaban if'n he gets hun-gray!!

[Duckboy]

So i guess take a minimum unit and that is it. range 10 bone shacker is nasty.

[Duckboy]

Bone Grinders steal dead warbeasts' animi, and can boost the range of a warlock's spells.

Also, they make a nice snack for Calaban if'n he gets hun-gray!!
Dead Friendly warbeasts

[MagnustheJust]

Aren't they all pretty friendly when they are dead?

[Reemule]

Actually bone grinder are awesome with him. After a wrangler and/or a bull snapped dies, still having access to their animi, out side of having to cast them is strong.

[Sevwall]

Hah! Awesome! You killed my snapper? Fine! I still get spiny growth....

Calaban's Tier is awesome. Barnabas's tier doesn't make up for Thrullgs. But 1 out of 2 is grrrrrreat for theme forces ;).

[titanmatrix]

My only question is how awesome is the water feature. I imagine it's shallow, but I'd really apperciate being able to place deep water :D
I'm also curioused by the size of it.
Mainly I'm looking to figure out just how many water templates I need to get building.
I'd don't see myself likely playing gators at 100 points, but ya know, the prospect of 10 full squads, or 16 min squads is hard to pass up in my mind...

[TheOtherChosenOne]

calaban takes bonegrinders.... great, even more options for the gators >.> my pigs should just start roasting themselves

[HoldTheLine]

I like the fact that Calaban gets the Bone Grinders, since they have great tabletop synergy...but, fluffwise, why does Calaban's preferred army include farrow? Doesn't seem to make sense.

[Reemule]

I like the fact that Calaban gets the Bone Grinders, since they have great tabletop synergy...but, fluffwise, why does Calaban's preferred army include farrow? Doesn't seem to make sense.

Because giving him a Cyclops Shaman made even less sense?

AMIRITE?

[Greggle]

I think bone grinders makes sense. They are magic, he is magic. It's not like there is any fluff that the farrow and gators hate each other, right? Pigs can live in the swamp.

[Antigonus]

My only question is how awesome is the water feature. I imagine it's shallow, but I'd really apperciate being able to place deep water :D
I'm also curioused by the size of it.
Mainly I'm looking to figure out just how many water templates I need to get building.
I'd don't see myself likely playing gators at 100 points, but ya know, the prospect of 10 full squads, or 16 min squads is hard to pass up in my mind...

My guess is they didn't want to get slapped for releasing full information - on the other hand, the book isn't too far off now, and I imagine it'll be a bit more specific.

[FearLord]

My guess is they didn't want to get slapped for releasing full information - on the other hand, the book isn't too far off now, and I imagine it'll be a bit more specific.

Presumably they'll be identical to those allowed by Blind Water...

As for fluff reasons why Bone Grinders would work for Calaban, its a little early to say, since we haven't seen Calaban's fluff, and we haven't even seen the Bone Grinders Mk2 fluff yet...

[Lycane]

Presumably they'll be identical to those allowed by Blind Water...

As for fluff reasons why Bone Grinders would work for Calaban, its a little early to say, since we haven't seen Calaban's fluff, and we haven't even seen the Bone Grinders Mk2 fluff yet...
I wonder if voodoo could play a role :)

[Magnus0740]

I would guess that voo-doo does play apart in having the Bonegrinders in Calaban's tier list. In voo-doo there are often stories of unwilling slaves working for their voodoo priest masters. You could easily say that they are prisoners of Calaban. Makes me want to repaint my BG's to look like voodoo zombies

[Mahrdol]

Calaban Tier 3 Do you reduce Snapjaw by 2 points? Making Wrong Eye & Snapjaw 7 point cost?

[HoldTheLine]

First off, this thread is almost a month old. Do not resurrect old threads (I'm sure a mod will be along presently to say the same thing).

Anyway, to answer your question, Snapjaw does not have a points cost. You purchase both Wrong Eye and Snapjaw for 9 points. Thus, you cannot decrease Snapjaw's point cost.

So, unfortunately, the answer is no.

[Mahrdol]

How old is a thread before it is considered old?

[Not Dice]

A month isn't that bad. We don't have a hard rule on what constitutes thread necromancy, but mainly it's based on relevance. If there are newer threads or the common discussion of the topic is more up to date than the information in the old thread, then yes, bad form.

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[HoldTheLine]

Ah, my apologies. I should find something better to do with my time, no?

[Not Dice]

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