How big is too big?

[Vokshev]

It is hard to connect the hands to arms to body for MoW figures!(The shoulder segments) This is my first metal model assembly, am I doing it right?

I tried very hard but I cannot get a good fit unless I use some green stuff, are the gaps too big? or are they normal?
http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc474/Vokshev/MoW001.jpg
http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc474/Vokshev/MoW002.jpg
http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc474/Vokshev/MoW003.jpg

[Kovaas]

Probably it's because you didn't assemble it in the position it was meant to be, with the arms lower near the body. However I think you've done a good job with green stuff and the arms positioning is very nice :)

[Mugu]

Yeah, I couldn't tell you how it was supposed to be assembled, being a Cryx player, but I really like the pose you've come up with.

[Vokshev]

That is the pose from the box photo! There are 2 guys, once holds the hammer lower accross as you have said and the other is this one. the 3rd guy well...he is the kapitan and it is pretty obvious.

You are sure I assembled it wrong? ><"

[marijnh]

It's not uncommon for metal igures to have gaps. I'm not sure how MoW should be assembled, or how thick exactly the green-stuff is, but from what I can tell from the photos the original pose is with the weapon in a lower position. Not saying you're doing it wrong (this looks good enough, and some variation in poses is a good thing), but I imagine it fits together better if you lower the arms.

[Vokshev]

Ah damn! Now I am in a dilemma if I should demolish it and attempt to re-assemble again! That compulsion is strong, does my current MoW position look unnatural? And is it common that people pose thier models differently? I mean....if it is not assembled as planned, the structural integrity of the model is bound to suffer no?

[Oniichan]

It's going to look fine once it's painted, don't worry about it. You did a great job putting it all together with greenstuff, and it's a good pose.

With the Men o' War, you have to also watch which sets of arms you're using - there should be letters on the inside of each arm somewhere, so left arm A goes with right arm A, and so on. The poses on the box are the result of those arms, one is supposed to have his arms lower and the other higher. MoW are a bit of a pain to put together, especially the Demo Corps, but you're doing a great job so far and I'd keep on doing what you're doing.

[Vokshev]

Yup I noticed the A/Bs this is the B-set arms,I still can't be sure which is the B-set by looking at the box photo, is B the one with weapons raised?

[Vokshev]

Thanks for the encouragement guys! Being my very first time using GS and putting together a metal model, it is pretty intimidating.

[DemonCalibre]

If I recall correctly

You might have the wrong arms, one of the most frustrating parts about Democorps is each pose has a very specific *Pair* of arms, except nothing indicates which arm goes with it. I am pretty sure the guy with the hammer over his head has his hands much closer together on his hammer.

Yours looks about as good as mine with the hammer over his head(your shoulder is a bit disconnected my wrist is)

[Vokshev]

boths weapon+hands are almost exactly similar, except that one of them has the hands slightly angled, I presume thatthe one with the slightly angled wrists is the one for the MoW that has a lower weapon position.

[Vokshev]

Can anyone confirm that?

[Pszito]

too big=
<---------------------------------> (actual size)

i'm helping ;-)

[Vokshev]

Not that big of a help....
Can anyone who owns a fully assembled MoW confirm that the MoW with the lower weapon position has his wrists slightly bent sideways?

[Yurimow]

Not that big of a help....
Can anyone who owns a fully assembled MoW confirm that the MoW with the lower weapon position has his wrists slightly bent sideways?
No i can not... it doesn't matter since these suckers don't fit anyway. By looking at my MoWs all i can say is that B is the one with the left hand bent sideways. In the gallery you see one MoW with the hammer above his head and the other one in front of himself. I have no clue who is who, since both Mow A and B can be assembed in both positions and both positions will need some (heavy) gapfilling.

[Hush02]

yea, I've assembled the MoWs as well. I had to stare at the two hammers to find out what was different with them (I didn't notice the A/A B/B until I had clipped it off the hammer). I still don't know the difference even till this day (Probably work of the Privateer Press Pixies). This is why I always dryfit before gluing or using GS

[Vokshev]

yea, I've assembled the MoWs as well. I had to stare at the two hammers to find out what was different with them (I didn't notice the A/A B/B until I had clipped it off the hammer). I still don't know the difference even till this day (Probably work of the Privateer Press Pixies). This is why I always dryfit before gluing or using GS

Yes That is exactly my problem, can someone from PP shed some liight on how to assemble MoWs correctly? Particularly which one of the arms are A and B respectively.

FYI the MoW you see here is shoulderplates A + unknown weapon hands.

[Yurimow]

FYI the MoW you see here is shoulderplates A + unknown weapon hands.
While cooling down the metal deforms. In some cases this deformation is that small, that it stays unnoticed. In other cases it leads to "problems" like the notorious khador gap. I have noticed (at least i think so, since i assembled some) that elongated pieces (like the MoWD hammers) tend to suffer a torsional deformation. This deformation usually stays unnoted on one handed weapons, but you notice it a lot on two handed weapons. That's why they don't fit. They usually fit by bending them back on models like stormguards, steelhead helebardiers, great bears, yuri the axe etc. On the MoWD they probably would fit by bending them back, if the shoulder pads fit to the torso. But thy don't.

Edit: i've watched my MoWD's carefully. On the B weapon the left hand is slightly smaller and the part of the shaft between left hand and bottom is shorter.
_____________A________________________B___________

https://store.privateerpress.com/ProductImages/khador/units/KH-0244-J.jpghttps://store.privateerpress.com/ProductImages/khador/units/KH-0244-M.jpg

Don't ask me why the images in the parts store are mirrored. I have no clue.

[Vokshev]

Is Hammer A is the overhead pose or the horizontal pose?

[Yurimow]

Hammer A is the horizzontal pose. You can tell by the image in the PP gallery. You notice that the bottom part of the shaft is shorter in the overhead pose.

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/4904/hammerconf.jpg

[Vokshev]

Thank you Yurimow, you have been of a great help!!