View Full Version : Blindwater "Battle Box"
04-20-2011, 05:42 AM
A friend of mine is wanting to get into Hordes and after looking at my No Quarter, he is really interested in running a Blindwater army. He particularly likes the idea of drowning the opposing team in water and making it hard for them to move. So, I'm pretty sure he's gonna take Barbarus.
I was wondering, since I've never really dealt with them myself yet, whats a good 10-12 point beast army for him to buy and not spend too much green on ?
I have a small Carver 25 List of my mine, with two Hogs and one boar, but I'm not sure which Blindwater beasties are the best.
04-20-2011, 06:24 AM
I'd suggest a Wrassler and 3 Snappers. That's 12pts (including Barnabas' beast points). It gives a big heavy, and three lights that can still do some decent damage. You get good animuses, and you can upgrade to a spitter later.
Now, if he goes with Caliban, i'd go with the spitter and the three snappers, which gives you a bit more 'keep away' feel to the list than Barnabas's "Gonna Get Ju!"
04-20-2011, 09:21 AM
A Wrastler and a Spitter would probably work as well if like me you simply don't own 3 Snappers.
04-20-2011, 09:52 AM
Honestly i think id rather have Barnabas, a spitter and three snappers instead of the wrastler ^^" but i realize that might not make for as good a "battlebox" in terms of learning how to play gators.
04-20-2011, 01:59 PM
3 snappers is just about the same for a full unit of gatorman so i would do a spitter and a full unit of gator man.. or switch the spitter with the wrastler!.. Both Heavys are really awesome to play with
04-20-2011, 03:24 PM
Maybe it's just me, but in my mind the difference between "battlebox" and "xx points Mangled Meta" is precisely that battlebox games aren't supposed to be optimized. If you want to build lists, play a 15 point (or 12 or whatever) Mangled Metal game. Otherwise, you try to hit 11-12 points (11 is preferred) with a variety of models generally going for the more basic stuff over the specialty stuff.
04-20-2011, 06:08 PM
Also remember that Khador is the only battle box that has 2 heavies in it.
As it stand I don't think Blindwater has a good battle box for learning to play them. The wrastler is too wrapped up in it convoluted gimicks to make a good teaching heavy. The Spitter however lacks a decent melee punch to make a good learning heavy.
We need a 9-10 point no nonsense heavy and a 4-5 light to make a good battle box IMO.
04-21-2011, 05:03 AM
In my opinion, I'd suggest Barnabas with Wrastler, Spitter and a Snapper.
Its still sitting in the Battle Box point range at 14, but I can tell you that Barnabas as it is is gonna be overpowered in battle box games.
The reason I suggest this is because its gonna be a great place to start for Gatormen.
If you realy wanna play it in battle box games, I'd suggest Wrastler and Spitter, but that may also be over powered, wich is still not a bad thing cause new players that win their first few games often stay in the Hobby :)
04-23-2011, 10:19 PM
What's with the Wrassler hate? I love the two I have!
04-23-2011, 10:26 PM
he wrastler is too wrapped up in it convoluted gimicks to make a good teaching heavy.
What's convoluted about "I'm going to charge and then hit you with 4 POW 17's and 2 POW 14's? Death Roll is useful if you need to knock something down.
And if you think power attacks are convoluted (i.e. 2-handed throws), then you are missing out on a huge portion of the game.
04-24-2011, 05:09 PM
Wrastler and 3 snappers. It is a standard battlebox format.
05-01-2011, 11:11 AM
Yes to the Wrastler and three Snappers. We have the same kind of Battlebox as Cryx or Searforge (the one they used to have), in that it's three lights and a heavy. Actually closer to dwarves, since it's three of the same light.
Actually, I have to try this now. Might help my friend get into Warmahordes if I can slap together a few battleboxes for him to play with.
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