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MCPeePants
01-11-2010, 01:38 AM
So I've been looking to shake it up a bit from my Circle army, and thought I might make a foray into Warmachine with the best-looking caster in town. Here's what I was looking at, based mostly on the models I like.

Lich Lord Asphyxious: -6
-Cankerworm: 5
-Nightwretch: 4
-Defiler: 5

10 Bane Thralls: 8

10 Satyxis Raiders: 8
-UA: 2

Pistol Wraith: 3

Bane Lord Tartarus: 4

Skarlock Thrall: 2

Total: 35 points

Seems like it should be a fairly simple list. It's got decent armour-cracking power with the banes, never mind using parasite to bring tougher targets into the Cankerworm and Satyxis range. It would suffer a bit against high-def infantry, but with the Satyxis UA it shouldn't be too hard to get them into combat alive. No surprise, the idea is to make the enemy laboriously kill off all of the Bane Thralls only to have Asphyxious come forward and pop them back up either for an assassination or just a deadly turn. Cankerworm seems like a no-brainer, being cheap, fairly powerful, and very mobile with the affinity.

The things I'm not totally sure about are the pistol wraith and the Skarlock. I was considering dropping the Skarlock, trading the Defiler for another Nightwretch, and fielding a second pistol wraith, but I'm not sure if it would be worth losing the free cast. The list does suffer a bit when it comes to solo removal. Not much to deal with them aside from running a node up or using the pistol wraith.

Any suggestions?

ResurrectioN
01-11-2010, 02:22 AM
Drop Skarlock - he can cast only 2 spells and none of them is one that you would recast every turn.
With 2 leftover points buy some shields and Bane Lances instead of War Axes for Banes (Thralls--->Knights)
Knight are far superior on feat turn because of reach (more can pile up on one target)

Replace defiler for NW and buy 3 bump thralls (scraps) for 1 point.

MCPeePants
01-11-2010, 01:38 PM
I know it sounds silly to ask for advice and then disregard it, but I think I'm going to keep the bane thralls over bane knights. Reach makes them a bit deadlier with the feat, true, but I just like the thralls better. The bane knight models weird me out a bit.

Dropping the skarlock is probably for the best though. Mostly I wanted it around to throw up a parasite on a target Asphyxious was about to charge so that he could benefit from the ARM debuff without paying for it. I like to play casters quite offensively, then vanish to safety. Other than that, he'd just be a fragile 2-point solo throwing out excarnates, which isn't too bad. I may try playing with him, see how it feels.

Great call on the scrap thralls. I totally overlooked them, so just dropped that last point into a better bonejack. I really like the suicide bomb.

Thanks for the help.

ResurrectioN
01-12-2010, 06:06 AM
I'll never give advice to n00bs!
Never!
You hear me !??1111?!one!!eleven!1

Ok, maybe just this once :)

Thralls VS Knight:

It's not "bit deadlier".
Try to see how many Thralls you can fit in front arc of small base and how many Knights.
They are all MAT 6; you need as more attempts to hit as you can get.

One more thing is that Knights move 3" in maintenance phase.
That has proven to be very useful for future assassinations runs:
Banes charge in deep (usual 10" + 3") and opponent must commit lots of forces to remove them and pile up on one place and spend FOC and then you feat next turn.

On the other hand you'll save some focus as you don't have to put mists in front of Thralls but thats not enough compensation.

I can't force you to play what you don't want XD

Since you like going offensive i suggest getting Gorman for Skarlock so that Gaspy can be closer to battle.