Kromak & Shadowhorn Jump Question

[bonehead2]

Hi!

I've a question about the Kromak and Shadowhorn Satyr Jump ability:

Can he Jump during a charge movement? after movement (+3 Spd) and before the attack (boosted damage by charge).

Very thanks!

[Rosicrucian]

Nope, because a charge is not a "full advance".

[Phatheadaf]

ya the key is "full advance".... but the good news is he can effectively move that far every turn :)

[Murch]

Nope, because a charge is not a "full advance".

Full Advance states, up to it's current speed. Is this a description or an actual ability?

I thought I read somwhere, in MKII you could charge and do spells, etc... before making the attack. Does this just apply to say a Wolwarden's ability (+2str, while not getting the speed penalty) after the charge and not the way Kromac is written?

[Rosicrucian]

Full Advance states, up to it's current speed. Is this a description or an actual ability?

"There are three basic types of advancing: full advance, run, and charge." pg. 46 Mk2 Prime.

Basically when a model takes the movement part of its activation it will do one of those three things (barring slam/trample) which are different and mutually exclusive. A "full advance" is what is colloquially referred to as walking. If a model chooses full advance it moves up to its SPD. If a model decides to charge it instead follows the rules for a charge. It is not making a full advance even though it may happen to move up to its SPD.


I thought I read somwhere, in MKII you could charge and do spells, etc... before making the attack. Does this just apply to say a Wolwarden's ability (+2str, while not getting the speed penalty) after the charge and not the way Kromac is written?

It does apply to Kromac too, he just can't jump after charging for the reasons I outlined above. He could however charge, cast a spell or animus, and then start attacking. It's just that without something like the -2 SPD there is generally little reason to need to do this so people don't discuss it.