View Full Version : How feasable is the Dr. A 15pt 3x War Hog Mad Science T1 list?
07-09-2011, 08:49 PM
So, I've read a couple places and seen where, for the perfect fit of 15pts, you can take Dr. A and 3x War Hogs. Being a huge fan of the War Hog model and the idea of this face smashing goodness, I was wondering if it was really feasable?
My concerns would be any list with good range or large block of infantry could slow it down or kill it pretty easily since Dr. A is certainly no battle warlock.
Obviously the list would take some skill to play, so assuming there is some skill behind the player, is the list feasable? Can it really counter infantry swarm or strong ranged?
07-10-2011, 12:01 AM
Its 15 pts, there isn't much that will screw you. In fact, I think you'll have a strong upper hand with a simple battle plan, decently tough beasts, and the ability to absolutely wreck face with said beasts. Plus, since the good Dr. is a beast caster, its a good fit IMO.
07-10-2011, 08:34 AM
It's hugely feasible IMHO. If you're fighting ranged stuff, you can use your feat to help close the gap faster. If you're fighting troops, you can set up Tramples or again use your feat for lots of kills while casting Massacre. They'll basically kill whatever troops they can reach probably. You've got Pyscho-Surgery and a decent amount of Fury for healing up too.
I guess the bottom line is, what can an opponent possibly be taking at 15 points that can shoot down three War Hogs that are healing rapidly or what troops do they have that can both out-charge AND do major damage to three heavy beasts? There's not too many lists that do either one well enough that you won't have a good fighting chance.
Not to mention that 15 points with troops & solos has never been a recommended format for the game. You CAN build a specific list that will be very hard for just about any Hordes army to beat by abusing the format. High Reclaimer and three units of Knights Exemplar should do nicely, plus whatever jack you want to take with your jack points. Roll smoke, charge Exemplars, profit. But that doesn't really mean anything except that it's an example of why this format isn't recommended.
07-10-2011, 08:56 AM
Hm...a Kara Sloan that has 3 Hunters, Reindholt, and 2 pts of filler (random solo like Viktor Pendrake maybe). That would jack with your day. 2 Pow 12 Weapon Master shots, 3 AP shots w/ boosted damage, and an annoying solo that is geared to mess with war beasts. I think that could mess your day up nicely (its also what I run with Kara at 15, just a GMCA over Pendrake).
But still, for the most part, you'll scare people. It'll do pretty good and I hope you the best of luck.
07-10-2011, 10:02 AM
Well, 3 Hogs and a Gun Boar were fairly amazing for me at Die Con in the 20 point MM, well, until I ran into phatasian's dubs Ravagore, eLylyth list
Drop a gun boar and there you are!
Bob of Doom
07-10-2011, 02:22 PM
I've played 15 points with 2 War Hogs and a Gun Boar and I must say its funny when you're opponent has to focus everything to kill one, cuz if he didn't it'll be in his face next turn. The only problem with that list is the lack of Pathfinder, as I often got screwed over by casters who make difficult terrain.
07-11-2011, 08:33 AM
I run Lord Carver with 2 War Hogs and a Gun Boar at 15 pts, and it is damn effective. I am pretty sure that Dr. A with 3 war hogs will be just as brutal. Lack of Pathfinder is a problem, but nothing 3 heavy beast shouldn't be able to get around. If anything you will demoralize your opponent, since most 15 point lists don't see 3 Heavies of our caliber in them.
07-11-2011, 03:32 PM
Excellent. Well, the 3 little piggies have been assembled, now to prime, paint and smash face. It's mostly for fun anyway, so I look forward to it.
Meanwhile I'm working on my carver lists :)
07-17-2011, 08:44 AM
I took the Arkadius + 3 Hogs list for the 15pt Mangled Metal tourney at Wargames Con, having used Arkadius once before, and went 7-3. Having 3 really hard-hitting heavies who you can psycho surgery is HUGE. Arkadius is great in smaller games where he can get closer without having to worry about too much shooting from units or solos. I got Crippling Grasp off nearly every game!
I'll agree with ForceFields though, you can be hurt by a lack of pathfinder/mobility... but that didn't really lose me any of my games.
07-17-2011, 10:29 AM
Nice! Just proves that Arkadius is a pretty brutal 'lock.
Bob of Doom
07-17-2011, 06:43 PM
In a 25 point game I got my opponent down to a heavy and his caster. This was after he got Dr. A down to 1 hit box left. Twice. Psycho surgery is my favorite spell with him.
It's extremely viable I would say.
07-23-2011, 08:39 PM
Psycho Surgery is an amazing spell. I ran Dr. A and 4 beast and healed each model 4 hit points in one round. That would take any other lock 20 fury to do, but not Dr. A, he just needs 2!
Another amazing spell he has is Primal Shock. Making warbeasts arcnodes is amazing!. I have gotten a few caster kills thanks to Brine getting in close, then spamming it.
Bob of Doom
07-24-2011, 07:35 AM
I use primal shock to take out solos. Its easier to kill them than it is to kill or hurt casters with it.
07-27-2011, 07:27 PM
I've been using it in our local slo-gro and have only lost once. It is almost unfair, especially when you get the Hogs to P+S 20 :P
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