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bushman101
01-18-2010, 11:53 AM
I'm personally glad it's over.

I'd like to say thanks to the Circle forumites and Circle fieldtesters. I think we did a good job. Even if nothing changes, our faction overall looks good.

And more importantly, we kept it civil when we disagreed. While some forums were in-fighting, we were tossing out ideas. Maybe our low population played to our strengths.

I think I'm gonna give my Circle a rest and play Khador until the 'final' document

LEJKaya
01-18-2010, 12:00 PM
Same here, I have just got a new Ashlynn force so I'll be trying that for a bit, before coming back to my main faction with the final PDF.

And good job everyone here. I think I never saw a bad idea, even if we threw a lot out!

On our two biggest issues (Geomancy and the Warden in general and Kromac) we did excellent work and both models are now awesome.

Also mad props to PP guys, they listened to our feedback and made the faction play better. I have never seen any company do this kind of thing and I really hope it helps them as much as we like to think we help ;)

Dantes
01-18-2010, 12:05 PM
Here's hoping I am actually given a reason to field sentry stones again.

So is it too soon to start a "What I would like to see in the Forces of Hordes: Circle Orboros book." thread yet?

txiab
01-18-2010, 12:05 PM
It will be interesting to see how things shake out. I do think this was one of the highlights of posting on the Circle forums. Lots of discussion with many interesting and clever suggestions played out through the community. I only wish I was able to participate more, but really enjoyed the discussion.

bushman101
01-18-2010, 12:06 PM
Also mad props to PP guys, they listened to our feedback and made the faction play better. I have never seen any company do this kind of thing and I really hope it helps them as much as we like to think we help ;)

QFT

I was worried about some of our problems, but they turned out good in the end.
PP definatly deserves some cred

Blaque
01-18-2010, 02:34 PM
I think we will do okay. And a lot of the mdoels i cared about did get pretty good treatments. Here's hoping the others and our feedback come into play when the pdf rolls around.

And yeah, baseless specualtion time. I want a female tharn cahracter solo who buffs Bloodtrackers and Bloodweavers. Who's with me?

And stuff.

bushman101
01-18-2010, 03:00 PM
I want a female tharn cahracter solo who buffs Bloodtrackers and Bloodweavers. Who's with me?

And stuff.

*raises hand*

I figure as tiers get released, we will get more models to fit those tiers.

Our tiers should be easy to figure out considering some of our themes are pretty obvious: Wolves of O theme, Tharn theme

Blaque
01-18-2010, 03:43 PM
Soles said recently that every caster will hae their own theme list. So this means that some mixing and matching with thsoe things a bit. For instance, Kromac, Krueger and Morvahna more Ravagers, Baldur more Constructs and things like that.

WIll prove neat to say the least.

And stuff.

Dantes
01-18-2010, 03:45 PM
And yeah, baseless specualtion time. I want a female tharn cahracter solo who buffs Bloodtrackers and Bloodweavers. Who's with me?

And stuff.
Me. I would also like a female Tharn Warlock.

I'd also like to see attachments for Tharn Wolfriders and Tharn Ravagers.

magi
01-18-2010, 03:55 PM
Not to mention a druids theme.

My guess is we'll see a UA for Reeves, another druid unit, maybe a bloodtracker solo, and a weapon attachment and a couple new warbeasts (another Warpwolf heavy and it's a tossup for a furry or stone light).

Blaque
01-18-2010, 04:05 PM
I doubt we'll see another Tharn warlock. Part of what is unique about Kromac is that he went under the Wilding, Tharn don't normally do that (non-humans normally don't do it at all relaly.) So having another Tharn warlock (even a neat female one) delutes him in that.

If Arcane Killer were fixed to affect only enemy upkeeps, I personally would love to see a plague/pestilence-themed warlock. Circle did invent Rip-Lung afterall.

And stuff.

Bladestorm
01-18-2010, 04:36 PM
Stone melee unit.

I somehow fail to see a Baldur theme list working without one and it would let them give us a heavier but not multi-wound melee unit that we currently lack. (though if they want to give us a stone multi-wound unit, I'm all for that too :D It just seems very unlikely.)

krom71
01-18-2010, 05:45 PM
I'm looking forward to the Reeves WA with poison.. The Wolfrider Dragoon that buffs all of our female Tharn.. And the Wold warcaster attachment solo that has the old Harness Spirit ability from the Bonegrinders.. Let the wishing begin.

txiab
01-18-2010, 05:47 PM
I doubt we'll see another Tharn warlock. Part of what is unique about Kromac is that he went under the Wilding, Tharn don't normally do that (non-humans normally don't do it at all relaly.) So having another Tharn warlock (even a neat female one) delutes him in that.

If Arcane Killer were fixed to affect only enemy upkeeps, I personally would love to see a plague/pestilence-themed warlock. Circle did invent Rip-Lung afterall.

And stuff.

Tharn are human. Just human that have been influenced by the devourer worm for some time.

I couldn't agree more about wanting a plague warlock. My only concern is that it will end up being worthless against the undead (I still contend that undead is the most undercosted ability in the game). The last thing we need is more abilities/spells that only effect the living.

Dantes
01-18-2010, 06:05 PM
More then anything I want to be caught up. This is PP chance to bring us p to par with Warmachine. We have been two books behind since inception. I would have though that we would get more per book to catch us up but that hasn't been happening. Now with the Forces books PP has the chance to catch us up those two books so that we can go into MK2 on even footing with Warmachine.

This more then anything is what I want out of the Hordes forces books.

Tsenzei
01-18-2010, 06:24 PM
Me. I would also like a female Tharn Warlock.

+1

That said though, I wonder if it couldn't be covered (in play style if not fluff) by a "regular" druid.

In any event, I'd also like to see more "Storm" path Warlocks. We've only got Krueger for that so far, compared to two Beast and three Earth based Warlocks.

Blaque
01-18-2010, 10:15 PM
Dehelokov in the fluff of Metamorphosis has this neat ash and fire thing going when he visits Krueger. I wonder if somethinga bout natural disasters in teh sense of forest fires wouldn't hurt.

Also note that some of our current Druids are a bit hybrids of teh Stone, Storm and Beast paths. Mohsar has a bit of Storm actually in Sunhmmaer (Nature's Wrath) and hsi Feat (Unwinding). Though he is moslty Stone (Crevasse and Pillar of Salt Stone-Shapper, Sands of Fate a form of Wayfarer.)

Kaya feels like she has a bit of Wayfarer to her. Kromac Unwinding. I think all our casters save Baldur and Krueger one can say has a bit from other paths relaly.

And stuff.

Tsenzei
01-19-2010, 01:03 AM
I can see where you're coming from, but the way I understood it they all have a little bit of everything, but at a certain point they start to "specialize."

I'm not sure that it was maintained as much in MKII (I'd have to look at and consider their abilities again) but if you do look at the Blackclads, their UA, the Wayfarer, and even the Stonewarden (though to a lesser extent, depending on how you view Concerted Fire) they all had their fingers dipped in each path.

Generally after they've gotten their basic training and/or Awakened. Kromac might be a special case since he's a Shaman rather than a Druid, but it seems he's naturally followed the Beast path eventually, though not limited to it.

Morvahna seems to be pretty clearly based on Stone to me as well, or at least I couldn't see any of her spells/feats having to do with any of the other paths. But that's just how I see things.

Firestorms as mentioned might be interesting, or Hurricanes or even Blizzards. A northern detachment, or perhaps one of the Druids that's been focusing on Cryx or Cygnar's coast something could easily have those sorts of thematic abilities, though I'd probably want to avoid repeating abilities that Vayle has.

*shrug*

At this point I'm just thinking out loud.

Bladestorm
01-19-2010, 04:03 AM
It's my understanding that there are three basic paths - Air, Earth and Beast. All druids who have been through the wilding can in theory learn all three, though mastering them takes a lot of time and effort. "Basic training" - if any is given in such a chaotic organization as the circle would likely only consist of a few simple but usefull spells/abilities that were immediately usefull, with anything beyond being at the whim of there mentor (if they have one)

A lot of the ones we have as warlocks are those who have a particular natural talent/affinity for one or more of the paths and have focused on it to rise above the pack of regular druids - Krueger focusing on air and Baldur on earth being the most obvious examples.

I seem to remember a requirement for omnipotent usually being mastery of all three, even if there titles are technically the omnipotent of earth, air and beasts.

txiab
01-19-2010, 04:06 AM
A northern detachment, or perhaps one of the Druids that's been focusing on Cryx...

Morv's fluff mentions that she started her Druid career, if druids have careers, on an island near Cryx. Just thinking aloud here, but it seems that her abilities are a sort of counterpoint to the undead. She brings life. Also funny, that given her close proximity to Cryx she relies on living models so heavily.

YabaBaga
01-19-2010, 04:46 AM
More then anything I want to be caught up. This is PP chance to bring us p to par with Warmachine. We have been two books behind since inception. I would have though that we would get more per book to catch us up but that hasn't been happening.
My brother did a count of all of the models in all of the books a little while ago and basically, Metamorphosis caught us up to pre-Legends, so now, we're basically one book behind. If War Machine gets maybe 10 new entries in their Forces book and Hordes gets 15, we should be looking pretty good for next year.

DudeOfOrboros
01-19-2010, 08:51 AM
Looking at Prime Mark II and what we've seen sneaked for the Forces of Warmachine books, Circle will likely get:

1 new heavy in Primal Mk II: Not a wolf, goat or construct please, something new.
In FOH:CO:
1 new warlock: I could go for a female Tharn Priestess warlock
1 Light Warbeast: Some type of beast we have not seen before, instead of another wolf or goat or construct
2 units: Wolf Warriors and unit of Druids, I hope
1-2 unit attachment: Tharn chick attachement and Reeves attachement, pleeeeeeese....
1-2 solo: surprise me!

And maybe a Kaya resculpt?

Knowing PP, the Force books will have models not sneaked, I hope. So maybe one or two more models.

Theme Tiers will likely break my painting hand when I see the multiple units required.

LEJKaya
01-19-2010, 08:56 AM
New heavy is likely the Warrior Warpwolf mentioned in the FT document.
We need more warp wolves! The pureblood has synergy with them and so the more there are the better the PB is.

TBH I'd like the new light to be a warp wolf too.

I'd like a tharn chick solo that buffs all 3 tharn chick units too :)

Blaque
01-19-2010, 09:37 AM
The paths aer specifically Stone, Beast and Storm (not Air). Each has three subpaths which ahve their own subthemes:

Stone Shaper:
Earth, Wayfarer, Vitality

Storm Shaper:
Nature's Wrath, Unraveling, Locus

Beast Shaper:
Bonded Beast, Beast Mind, Shifter

They are also limitted in which paths they can take, but it seems this is tossed-out a bit on actual warlocks in my reading. A warlock needs to be initiated into each of the different paths to become Omnipotent (via a special rule in the IK Druid rules) but need not "specialize" in the extra spells. Note that since both Krueger and Morvahna both are canidats for Omnipotent, they have bits of all three. WHere the hell Kreuger's is is beyond me though.

The warlocks seem to have in no partuclar order teh following thems:

Baldur - Earth, Wayfarer (He may be a Blackclad in the PrC sense).

pKaya - Seems pretty much Beast Mind with some Wayfarer.

eKaya - Bonded Beast, Wayfarer. Not as much Beast Mind focused anymore I don't think.

pKrueger - Nature's Wrath. Lots and lots and lots of Storm.

eKrueger - A bit more Nature's Warth. Unraveling has some troop-buffing though (including a spell called Remove Fear in teh d20 version. Who knew?)

Morvahna - Vitality, pretty obviously. Bit of Earth too with her tree production. Maybe a bit of Locus, as Offering is kind of spell-like and I think Harvest's effect feels a bit about "Making my magic better" I suppose.

Kromac - Beast Mind for his beast buffs. Shifter kind of, but not really (Its his THarnness there more.) And actually a good amoutn of Unraveling with Beastial, his old feat's theme, Invioble Resolve and possibly Warpath could all be put in there. He's all about shredding magic it feels like.

Mohsar - Wayfarer, Nature's Wrath, Earth, Unraveling, possibly Locus (his Maltreatment and blindness feel it abit). Very diverse warlock. He's Omnipotent for a reason I suppose.

Right now we really lack Locus (which is a weird one to replicate, its all about making your spells inate abilities). Unraveling is pretty common I'm realizing. I doubt we'll get an actual shapeshifter with Kromac around either, he's probably as close as we'll get.

Nature's Wrath is probably actually where plague is. Not sure. STorm also ahs spells dealing with ice, fire and all that. Basically huge "Nature hates you" stuff. I am personally always up for more angry druid things.

Anyhow, rant ovah for now.

And stuff.

Blaque
01-19-2010, 09:39 AM
And again, I still don't think we'll get another Tharn warlock. Kromac's fluff to me reads its pretty damned rare for them to get the Wilding (which Kromac does have and in our faction, is requried to be a warlock it seems). As such, I seriously doubt they'll dilute that by just tossing another one in, no matter hwo cool.

I predict it is mostly likely going to be a character solo myself.

And stuff.

blueskin
01-19-2010, 09:46 AM
I'd be happy to see some weird faerie-ish female light beast and a Swamp Thing-ish heavy.
Definitly a chick 'lock.
A Tharn chick solo would be awesome.
A new druid unit, please!

bushman101
01-19-2010, 09:50 AM
If were speculating on the next book, my money is on Epic Baulder...
..using the decapitated body of Lylyth as a epic base

yeah

Bloodwind
01-19-2010, 10:44 AM
Krueger is totally all storm. Just because he knows how to use other paths doesn't mean he bothers... lol

and Kromac is totally a shifter caster. Normal Tharn are all about drinking their potion and going into their bestial state, Kromac just goes *poof*. Though I suppose he could be drinking a vial of the potion. The way I see it, he's harnessed the latent powers of transformation that Tharn have combined with the Shifter path to allow him to go supersaiyan.

Thats right, supersaiyen

bushman101
01-19-2010, 10:47 AM
Thats right, supersaiyen

Kromac > 9000 ? :p

Mavwick
01-19-2010, 11:14 AM
Tharn Ravagers don't drink any potion, they channel the Devourer Wurm and transform before the hunt or battle. They're not human by any IK definition beyond "humanoid." (Which Totem Hunters and skorne are, as well.)

I'd love another Tharn warlock as well, but the background has very little basis for one, let alone two. Doug once said he would have shot down speculation of a Tharn Warlock before Kromac. He is a very rare example.
I think there's enough Warlocks who seem to work with the Tharn to justify Tharn theme lists. Kromac is obvious, Morvahna manipulates them and Kreuger saved a large portion from disaster in Evolution.

Tsenzei
01-19-2010, 11:54 AM
The paths aer specifically Stone, Beast and Storm (not Air). Each has three subpaths which ahve their own subthemes:

Stone Shaper:
Earth, Wayfarer, Vitality

Storm Shaper:
Nature's Wrath, Unraveling, Locus

Beast Shaper:
Bonded Beast, Beast Mind, Shifter

pKaya - I don't think it's Wayfarer so much as it is Bonded Beast. She isn't using the power of the Earth to move like Mohsar, or Baldur, but rather pulling herself or the 'beast through the spirit realm.

eKaya - With her I'd say Forced Evolution fits into Shifter a bit, Dog Pile would either fit with a bond or possibly Beast Mind (since it makes the target more... "appetizing").

Morvahna - I think Harvest (and Offering/Harrow) is still more about manipulating vitality, but I can certainly see how you could get Locus or Unraveling from it. Just not how I've looked at it.

Kromac - Warpath doesn't seem like Unravelling to me, even if it's a buff. Likewise Bestial always seemed to be a Beast Mind effect, even if it mimicked some of the same effects. Just like "Invoke Wilding" was obviously Beast Mind.

Mohsar - Agreed, though he still seems to focus more on Earth (and Nature's Wrath), even though he's more diverse than Baldur or Morvahna.

Anyway, that's just how I look at those abilities. Of course, I'm not familiar with the IK RPG rules, and I don't go past the rulebook fluff, so take it with a grain of salt.


I am personally always up for more angry druid things.Here here.


I agree a female Tharn Warlock is unlikely. Though it doesn't make me want one any less. Kind of like back during spoiler leaks of Meta when eBaldur wasn't happening. Didn't make me want that any less either. ;)

WickedGood
01-19-2010, 07:11 PM
For Warlocks

Snow/Blizzard Warlock - Krueger but cold sooooo cold.....

A Yeti to go with him.

Swamp Warlock - Off to claim the thornwood again. Lots of movement interdiction. Turns gatormen into circle maybe? Or throws plagues around perhaps?


A magic interdiction warlock - earth based perhaps as it grounds the magic forces. I would make him some sort of mountian caster.

For beasts -
The yeti like I said above. The movie wasn;t great but the last Mummy movie had soem cool Yeti's in them.

The snake beast that Dhalia has (At least I think it is her). We are followers of the devourer wyrm right? Shouldn't we get something along those lines?

Dantes
01-19-2010, 07:16 PM
While a swamp warlock would be very cool I really don't see use getting it. Not that I mind as I intend to make Gatormen(Minions) to be my second army.

meleemadness
01-19-2010, 08:39 PM
And yeah, baseless specualtion time. I want a female tharn cahracter solo who buffs Bloodtrackers and Bloodweavers. Who's with me?

And stuff.

lol, I'm with you!! Funny you mention this, I was talking about this with another circle player this evening at our LGS.

meleemadness
01-19-2010, 08:55 PM
New heavy is likely the Warrior Warpwolf mentioned in the FT document.
We need more warp wolves! The pureblood has synergy with them and so the more there are the better the PB is.

TBH I'd like the new light to be a warp wolf too.

I'd like a tharn chick solo that buffs all 3 tharn chick units too :)

I concur with every thing you said. I would like to see more warp wolves and Tharn...it's why I got into this game and this faction.

A U/A for the bloodtrackers is needed as they are only 1 FA. They need something to make them better as they seem weaker than they were in MKI but are only FA1.

A tharn chick solo would be nice too as would a weapon attachment to the bloodweavers.....they are limited to only 6 so a W/A would allow them 3 more models and add more capability. Hopefully a solo would somehow give them more mobility or survivability (as far as getting into combat).

I was thinking of Tharn hunters that used nets or lassos and tridents or spears. They could have some sort of debuffing abilities or extend the melee range of the Tharn chicks.

I was also thinking of another unit of Ravagers, kinda like the Warmongers and Warspears but a ranged type unit doesn't seem to go well with the Tharn male. I then thought of Kromac and how he had the wilding, something rare in Tharn....maybe we could make a solo male Tharn on a medium base as a solo who suffers from the wilding and has given into the beast and is now a predatory beatstick Tharn solo.....just a thought on how to get some more male Tharn, and fluff, in there.

I do wonder what the warrior warp wolf is all about, wish there were some rumors leaked. They would not have used that name if a concept wasn't in place yet.

Anyway, more Tharn and more wolfish beasts.....oh, wish the tharn wolf riders rode wolves instead of coyotes :(

ChronoCrusher
01-20-2010, 07:10 AM
The next Circle warlocks are going to the rest of the omnipotents, Lortus was already mentioned extensively in the Meta fluff, we even found out what kind of weapons he uses. The other omnipotent, whose name escapes me, was the guy Kruegar gave the bird too. Lortus is a storm based warlock so we will likely see another version of thunder and lightning. The third omnipotent is likely going to be a beast 'lock, since Moshar covers Earth and Lortus covers Storm. After that....I have no idea what they are going to do.

Dantes
01-20-2010, 07:16 AM
The trolls killed the third omnipotent IIRC.

ChronoCrusher
01-20-2010, 07:43 AM
Lortus took the place of the omnipotent the trolls killed...There are always three omnniptents.

Blaque
01-20-2010, 08:54 AM
The current Omnipotents are:
- Lortus
- Mohsar
- Dehelokov

The last one is the one Krueger told to go **** himself. He never showed-up personally, but seems to of never liekd Krueger much. I also got this vibe he had some sort of fire and ash theme when he talked to Krueger in Metamorphosis. Probably all about fire and stuff, a warlock with Ashes to Ashes maybe?

Lortus replaced the guy that got ganked in Primal. He's been primarliy watching Blighterghast to see for draconic movement, which is why he cut Krueger off when he did and has some Blight (my guess is that he talked to the dragon before.) We do have a pretty good idea of his look though. He'd probably have some major storm stuff like Krueger (seemed mor eon the rain and typhoon part then the lightning parts). Also some anti-Blight/warbeast stuff.

Then again, we didn't know of a couple warlocks until they showe dup, like Kromac. So its alway spossible for them tos ide-line us. This happened to Warmachine a lot. We knew about say, Master Necrotech Mortenebra and Lich Lord Venathrax before, sure. But I don't think the names Kara Sloan or Vindictus everw ere dropped before. So who knows?

And stuff.

DudeOfOrboros
01-20-2010, 08:54 AM
A U/A for the bloodtrackers is needed as they are only 1 FA. They need something to make them better as they seem weaker than they were in MKI but are only FA1.
Tharn Theme Tier list will likely up it to FA2, I'm hoping. Two fully-painted full units of BTs with a new UA and a unit of BloodWeavers? Looking forward to it.

Lortus took the place of the omnipotent the trolls killed...There are always three omnniptents.
Must have missed that memo.

ChronoCrusher
01-20-2010, 09:00 AM
Must have missed that memo.

Here it is:

"To all standing members of the Circle Orboros - Erogenous met a bitter defeat at the hands of the trolls. We will be meeting to see who will take his place as an omnipotent. Kromac will be supplying the refreshments so please wear something red. Kruegar will say a few words about his predecessor (hopefully something other than "He was an idiot"). And Baldur will supply some late music entertainment with his latest creation, the 'Rock' band."

DudeOfOrboros
01-20-2010, 09:28 AM
Did they go over the TPS Reports too? :>

txiab
01-20-2010, 09:51 AM
Here's to hoping a Warrior Warp Wolf is a light. A Yeti could be cool. I also would love a Dune Prowler light to go with Mohsar.

Jotun
01-20-2010, 09:58 AM
I'd rather our next Warbeast be something of a Mohsar theme, perhaps a giant Scorpion from the trackless sands. :) Who knows.

Blaque
01-20-2010, 09:58 AM
I kind of would like if the Circle theme were for the mammals and such still myself. Also not apes. I for somer eason actually have this aversion to apes and the Gorax is toting th eline in being an ogre at least.

Still sorta sad the bear option is over with the Minions. Damn dorf.

And stuff.

meleemadness
01-20-2010, 12:18 PM
The next Circle warlocks are going to the rest of the omnipotents, Lortus was already mentioned extensively in the Meta fluff, we even found out what kind of weapons he uses. The other omnipotent, whose name escapes me, was the guy Kruegar gave the bird too. Lortus is a storm based warlock so we will likely see another version of thunder and lightning. The third omnipotent is likely going to be a beast 'lock, since Moshar covers Earth and Lortus covers Storm. After that....I have no idea what they are going to do.

A Tharn Chick, an offensive caster that buffs the hell out of her chicks!!! And makes the Ravagers......"excited to see her" so they will do more to earn her affection (or cruelty, whatever turns them on).:o

meleemadness
01-20-2010, 12:21 PM
The paths aer specifically Stone, Beast and Storm (not Air). Each has three subpaths which ahve their own subthemes:

Stone Shaper:
Earth, Wayfarer, Vitality

Storm Shaper:
Nature's Wrath, Unraveling, Locus

Beast Shaper:
Bonded Beast, Beast Mind, Shifter

They are also limitted in which paths they can take, but it seems this is tossed-out a bit on actual warlocks in my reading. A warlock needs to be initiated into each of the different paths to become Omnipotent (via a special rule in the IK Druid rules) but need not "specialize" in the extra spells. Note that since both Krueger and Morvahna both are canidats for Omnipotent, they have bits of all three. WHere the hell Kreuger's is is beyond me though.

The warlocks seem to have in no partuclar order teh following thems:

Baldur - Earth, Wayfarer (He may be a Blackclad in the PrC sense).

pKaya - Seems pretty much Beast Mind with some Wayfarer.

eKaya - Bonded Beast, Wayfarer. Not as much Beast Mind focused anymore I don't think.

pKrueger - Nature's Wrath. Lots and lots and lots of Storm.

eKrueger - A bit more Nature's Warth. Unraveling has some troop-buffing though (including a spell called Remove Fear in teh d20 version. Who knew?)

Morvahna - Vitality, pretty obviously. Bit of Earth too with her tree production. Maybe a bit of Locus, as Offering is kind of spell-like and I think Harvest's effect feels a bit about "Making my magic better" I suppose.

Kromac - Beast Mind for his beast buffs. Shifter kind of, but not really (Its his THarnness there more.) And actually a good amoutn of Unraveling with Beastial, his old feat's theme, Invioble Resolve and possibly Warpath could all be put in there. He's all about shredding magic it feels like.

Mohsar - Wayfarer, Nature's Wrath, Earth, Unraveling, possibly Locus (his Maltreatment and blindness feel it abit). Very diverse warlock. He's Omnipotent for a reason I suppose.

Right now we really lack Locus (which is a weird one to replicate, its all about making your spells inate abilities). Unraveling is pretty common I'm realizing. I doubt we'll get an actual shapeshifter with Kromac around either, he's probably as close as we'll get.

Nature's Wrath is probably actually where plague is. Not sure. STorm also ahs spells dealing with ice, fire and all that. Basically huge "Nature hates you" stuff. I am personally always up for more angry druid things.

Anyhow, rant ovah for now.

And stuff.

Wow, great wrap up, that really puts things into perspective.

meleemadness
01-20-2010, 12:27 PM
Here's to hoping a Warrior Warp Wolf is a light. A Yeti could be cool. I also would love a Dune Prowler light to go with Mohsar.

A light would be nice, not sure if the warrior warp wolf in the rules was illustrated as a heavy or light though......

meleemadness
01-20-2010, 12:29 PM
I kind of would like if the Circle theme were for the mammals and such still myself. Also not apes. I for somer eason actually have this aversion to apes and the Gorax is toting th eline in being an ogre at least.

Still sorta sad the bear option is over with the Minions. Damn dorf.

And stuff.

I can't stand the Gorax's face, I used an Argus head and green stuff to make more fur to flesh it out.

Tsenzei
01-20-2010, 02:52 PM
I kind of would like if the Circle theme were for the mammals and such still myself. Also not apes. I for somer eason actually have this aversion to apes and the Gorax is toting th eline in being an ogre at least.

Still sorta sad the bear option is over with the Minions. Damn dorf.

And stuff.

Agreed.

Though I personally would not be aversed to seeing more four-legged friends. Without having looked at the IK monster manual (or whatever it's actually called) some sort of giant Wolverine/Badger, with an adamentine skeleton (not really, just wanted to get the joke out of the way) could be interesting.

That or a Hippo. Hippos are bad-***.

ChronoCrusher
01-20-2010, 03:14 PM
Did they go over the TPS Reports too? :>

Kaya's Warpwolf ate it...:)

ChronoCrusher
01-20-2010, 03:17 PM
Then Moshar showed up and everyone started getting hot under the collar...So Lortus had to call in a thunderstorm to cool things down. Out of sheer relief they made him an omnipotent.

meleemadness
01-20-2010, 03:40 PM
Is there such thing as an Iron Kingdom monster manual?

ChronoCrusher
01-20-2010, 03:46 PM
There are two of them, the Monsternomicons...You can get pdf versions of them at drivethrurpgs.com.

Bloodwind
01-21-2010, 10:27 AM
Does anyone have a list of our figures that were updated in the holiday update?

LEJKaya
01-21-2010, 10:37 AM
Ours?

From the old thread:


AFAIK:
Kromac (Lots)
Morvahna - Regrowth for Revive
Mohsar - Crevasse
Shifting stones - Heal constructs.
eKaya - Deleted "Shadowpack lasts for 1 round"
Laris - lost ability to do Power Attack Locks
Baldur - Feat changed to "Enemy models may never have pathfinder"

I don't know about minions.

Bloodwind
01-21-2010, 10:50 AM
cool, that's what I needed!

I was away for a month and I need to get all the version three cards for tonight