View Full Version : Best Jacks for PSkarre?
stampdog316
01-18-2010, 04:14 PM
I am new to Cryx and am building a small (25-35 pt) force around Skarre. What is the best helljack for her? The only Cryx jack I have is a Reaper.
Thanks!
Skaramush
01-18-2010, 04:37 PM
Scratch that i was thinking of epic skarre
69Lazarus
01-18-2010, 04:37 PM
Anything that likes melee in general. (feat + dark guidance). Seether or Deathjack will be standard answers due to pure power and focus efficiency. She can make anything nasty though.
Skaramush
01-18-2010, 04:42 PM
Pskarre abundance of focus through sacrifice means she can potentially run a lot of jacks id go for corruptor tho because its a new kit and it lets you arc spells possibly negating a need for another arcnode, but generally Seether would be the best all round jack id say.
RuneGrey
01-18-2010, 04:50 PM
At first blush, any good melee jack can be good.
Things that perticularly SHINE are jacks that can do a lot of damage with repeated attacks, but might have to boost more. Harrower is excellent with the boosted attack roll, and you can get some good use out of a Slayer with her as well combined with feat. If we're just talking about her boost aura, it's actually overkill with a lot of our jacks - MAT 8 doesn't miss that much anyways, so the Deathjack and Seether don't show much particular shine.
Helldivers, OTOH, are evil little buggers in a pSkarre list, being nearly unstoppable and able to do huge amounts of damage on her feat turn and boosted by Dark Guidance. P+S 18 with free attack boosts will kill damn near anything, and it makes for a frightening little bonejack. Cankerwork can deliver a truly nasty bite on her feat turn as well, tying an incited Angelius for the highest POW Armor Piercing attack in the game.
Kaptain Von
01-18-2010, 10:07 PM
The Deathjack, a Seether, a Harrower, the Nightmare and Slayers will be getting the most unsupported mileage out of Dark Guidance, if you want to use her focus for something other than assigning to 'jacks and buying extra attacks with. I've heard grand things about the Stalker with her too, but I've never so much as owned one (which is a shame, and I should do something about it). Helldivers, Reapers and the Cankerworm can be good - the Reaper's Helldriver becomes a cruel thing when it's pretty much guaranteed a Sustained Attack at +5 STR, but it does still need focus to truly reap the benefit. I wouldn't suggest the Leviathan here - she doesn't do anything in particular for it, nor it for her.
hauntingexperience
01-18-2010, 11:26 PM
Deathjack, Nightmare, Harrower, and Helldivers.
Take 2 slayers.
Skarre can really run a heavy load of jacks due to sacrifice so she dosnt need the focus efficiency of the seether.
Hjelmen0
01-19-2010, 01:39 AM
I'm getting a lot of good results with a Reaper with Skarre. Especially paired up with Cankerworm. Drag, beat face, finish with Canker and salvage some new toys! :D
LawofThirds
01-19-2010, 04:05 AM
Harrower, stalker and slayer would be my top 3 picks.
Cankerworm is good but he doesn't really need the buffs that she supplies. One AP attack + feat is not nearly as effective as other uses. Multiple attack jacks are much more effective with her feat as are jacks that have lower mat like the crabs and bonejacks.
2LiveIs2Die
01-19-2010, 04:10 AM
Harrower is du-du-du-dumbbbbb~
With feat and guidence, pow 21 Reach Thresher... mat 6 + 3 dice to hit... o-m-g.
Dj And Nightmare for obvious reasons, i dont prefer them because of their point cost, and in 35 pts 12 points is a big deal.
2 Slayers is nice, even with 1 open box, a slayer can still move 6, do some power 16's, and get 2 dice to hit cause of guidance.
Kaptain Von
01-19-2010, 12:13 PM
Take 2 slayers.
Skarre can really run a heavy load of jacks due to sacrifice so she dosnt need the focus efficiency of the seether.
Ritual Sacrifice doesn't give out a reliable amount of focus. On a turn where she's only notched up seven points to spend, and is shelling out four of those on Dark Guidance, you may be glad of a 'jack that doesn't need focus to charge. Maybe a Slayer and a Seether, and then you can dump three focus on the Slayer without a hint of anguish. Or a Slayer and a Harrower, which would probably be my preferred choice.
Vermithrax
01-21-2010, 11:06 AM
Ritual Sacrifice doesn't give out a reliable amount of focus. On a turn where she's only notched up seven points to spend, and is shelling out four of those on Dark Guidance, you may be glad of a 'jack that doesn't need focus to charge. Maybe a Slayer and a Seether, and then you can dump three focus on the Slayer without a hint of anguish. Or a Slayer and a Harrower, which would probably be my preferred choice.
I'm in agreement here. I've played many a game with pSkarre where I couldn't roll better than a '2' on the Ritual Sacrifice roll. I've learned not to plan on the extra focus.
My most recent List Discussion thread runs into the same topic with my 35 point pSkarre list. Mainly what jack to take with her and still leave you points for that all important infantry swarm.
For me the candidate I like best is the Seether. I'm not sure I need a Harrower in a list that will include a large swarm of infantry. Meaning I don't think I'll be needing thresher for more infantry control. I'm happy if someone convinces me otherwise though.
Pendargon
01-21-2010, 11:11 AM
Deathjack. Always Deathjack. Possibly Nightmare...
A list of or jacks usually end there (except when they come for free via combine :-))
69Lazarus
01-21-2010, 11:36 AM
Deathjack. Always Deathjack. Possibly Nightmare...
A list of or jacks usually end there (except when they come for free via combine :-))
What's wrong with the Seether?
hauntingexperience
01-21-2010, 11:46 AM
The nightmare is whats wong with the seether. Its just a LOT better for next to nothing.
RuneGrey
01-21-2010, 11:57 AM
Nightmare doesn't have the Seether's chain attack. Nightmare doesn't generate a free point of focus. Nightmare doesn't get 7 attacks for 3 focus. Nightmare may be better when it is going after it's prey, but the Seether is no slouch either.
The Nightmare eats focus. The Seether needs none to do it's job. The Nightmare can kill stuff with extreme prejudice as long as it's preyed and has 3 focus. The Seether can throw your opponent's heavies around like children's toys for no focus. The Nightmare has an extra point of armor. The Seether can cause a unit to flee just by charging it, and has a minimum 1-6 chance of breaking any charge made by a unit against it.
The days of the 'obviously better' Nightmare a long gone. It's a solid jack, but it has a different specialization than the Seether.
69Lazarus
01-21-2010, 11:59 AM
I dunno if it is better....just different. I'll take a Necortech + scrapthrall with my Seether instead of taking the Nightmare. I find that if you don't really need the reach of the Nightmare, the Seether is far more focus efficient and still kills stuff dead.
If considering Denny - I may give the Nightmare the edge due to stealth.
Katkiller 5
01-21-2010, 12:25 PM
I would say to take a Seether and a helldiver or two. Seether's focus efficiency helps with the random chance of her focus factory, and the helldivers are cheap, annoying, and very efficient with dark guidence and her feat.
On the same token, if you're cheap or just need the extra points, a Slayer also works. It's cheap and very powerful on the attack, and with dark guidence it only really needs one focus to charge with.
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