Must you declare that you are channeling through an arc node, or is it just "obvious"

[Rustoof]

Journeyman league last night. Playing a poor attitude player.

He moves epic Sorscha up really far screened by one line of demo corps.

I walk thorn up with in like six inches of the screening model.

I activate Haley move her up (approx 17" or so from the demo corp) and say "Im casting Telekinesis on this demo corp."

At which point he looks at me and says "Ok, measure range"

I look at him like hes nuts since thorn is right in this guys face.

He says "you didn't declare you were channeling."

Now I'd really prefer not to hear "Don't play people like that" or "He should know." i would say that that is obvious.

What i am looking for is a definitive rules answer. Can anyone help me out?

[NagashTheBlack]

My rulebook is in my bunk but I'm fairly certain that it is part of checking for LOS, so you'd declare you are casting the spell then when you go to arc it you'd check that the node has LOS. This may be more implied than flat out stated by the book though. So if that's the case you wouldn't declare the use of the arc node when you say your casting it.

[Valander]

You do need to declare the point of origin of the spell, because there could be effects that could be important.

[ThatRickGuy]

In my experience if you haven't measured or rolled dice, you're free to change your mind. So if you say you're casting something, but you haven't measured or rolled, and someone says something that makes you change your mind, you're free to.

So yeah, you should declare that you are channeling before you measure for the spell and before you roll to attack. But to throw a fit about it in a friendly game... that's kinda annoying. Then again, playing eHaley is kinda annoying :P

-Rick

[NmoLvr]

You certainly must declare it, but according to your story you had not reached the point of no return yet. All you said was that you were casting a spell. That does not automatically mean that you are using the 'caster as the point of origin, nor does it automatically mean you are using the arc node. You must further specify what you are doing, and if you hadn't done that yet then you were fine.

Edit: What I mean is: You didn't say you weren't channeling either.

[TheEmu]

Also, if the ranges are totally obvious (aka 17" from Haley and 2" from Thorn), I'd contact TO/EO to stop that unsportsmanship conduct.

[jackbnimble218]

I agree with ThatRickGuy. Once you measure distance, you are commited. So since you hadn't measured, you could just measure from eHaley to thorn and say "checking control area", then measure distance from thorn to your target. Done

[NmoLvr]

Also, if the ranges are totally obvious (aka 17" from Haley and 2" from Thorn), I'd contact TO/EO to stop that unsportsmanship conduct.

At the risk of seeming to defend the player the OP is talking about (which is not my intention), 'obvious' is a very subjective word. You always have to declare what you are doing, even if you think it is obvious. What is obvious to me is not necessarily the same as what is obvious to everyone else.

[Valander]

You always have to declare what you are doing, even if you think it is obvious. What is obvious to me is not necessarily the same as what is obvious to everyone else.And doing this is the easiest way to avoid any arguments, and is good sportsmanship.

Locking since the OP's question is answered.