View Full Version : P3 droppers please
I use P3 paints and i'm thinking of switching not because P3 isn't great quality but, just messy. Vallejo and Reaper use droppers which gives you way more control w/ paint amount not to mention you paints don't dry out or build a nasty crust around the top. PP what's the deal?
11-26-2009, 06:59 AM
Amen. I like the Vallejo dropper bottles a lot. After like two or three years I'm still working on the same bottle of red that has been the basecoat for my entire Khador, and while about now I should replace it, I find that I waste less paint with the dropper bottles, and the whole operation is much less messy. I use mostly P3 paints, and think the quality is amazing, but dropper bottles sure are nice.
11-26-2009, 07:00 AM
Anyone know if you could get empty one on the cheap somewhere? Cause the best option might just be to pour you P3s into them.
11-26-2009, 07:04 AM
I hate the P3 bottles. I ruined my favourite jeans and hoodie because the P3 lids are way too stiff-- I tried to close one with one hand, but the bottle "refused", and spun in my hand instead. Bye-bye clothes. :(
11-26-2009, 07:04 AM
Like this? Seems like they're a step ahead. I haven't used them yet, but they look like what you're after.
11-26-2009, 07:09 AM
Anyone know if you could get empty one on the cheap somewhere?
The best option I found is to order them in bulk from Reaper. They do not offer bulk to anyone without a retail/tax ID, but this is something your LGS does have!
11-26-2009, 08:58 PM
I transferred all of my paints into Vallejo dropper bottles. It was really easy and I really like them.
11-27-2009, 03:53 AM
I think the pots are a direct result of the GW switch when P3's first came out. Old GW pot's were, well even more terible. People like the older old pots better, which happend to be the current style of the PP pots. So PP tryed to fill that gap that people wanted because alot of GW fans were afraid of what the new ones might turn into. Turns out they were actually pretty decent so that niche no longer needs filled by the old old style pots PP still uses.
I personally still perfer flip tops, I've had alot of trouble with Droppers and pulling right from the pot gives you the control of volume. Still GW pots are faster and less messyer to get into, which make them better in my mind. But I'm also lazy so just stick with P3.
11-27-2009, 01:23 PM
At one point I did transfer P3's to empty Vallejo dropper bottles. The dropper top all seemed to split on them. And it just poured out of the bottle, not in drops. Which defeats the purpose of the droppers. So I just switched back to the flip tops and use two hands to close the top. I do get some paint on my fingers when I open certain pots. But I just whip it off on a paper towel.
Kinda of a pain, but I work around it.
11-27-2009, 03:27 PM
This is the same issue that came up when PP first put out the paints... the creator stated here in the forums that it's intended and for quality purposes. Why you'd intentionally choose a poor quality bottle when your customer base was crying for the droppers is still beyond me.
Best choice at this point: buy dropper bottles and change bottles yourself. I'd seriously imagine that with the pace PP is working to put out their products and gaming material that they'd go over their hobby line so soon after it was released.
In my opinion PP has been upgrading everything so P3 droppers should be somewhere in the near future. Love the paints just hate the pots.
11-28-2009, 04:11 AM
Paints in dropper bottles empirically do dry out more easily and faster than in a PP-style pot. If you feel this is not the case, you have let paint dry inside your lids and they are not sealing. Which should not happen, because it's super easy to just peel the little dried ring of paint out of the lid. if this is happening to your P3 bottles, you will be doomed with Vallejo-type clogfest dryout-prone bottles. They are just the worst.
If you are spilling them, I don't know what to tell ya other than, don't paint out of the open lid, ya savages! Get and use a palette and pull your paint out of that (thinned, ideally). Let me tell you, I have used every kind of minis paint and model paint under the sun, and dropper bottles are THE messiest. By the time you dig in there with a pin to clear the nozzle, shake the bottle up (required and thus you are getting paint into the threads of the cap) and spurt out paint onto the palette...yeah you could have just dripped a couple drops out of a pot.
PP did step up their game- they have the BEST type of acrylic paint pot, not the trendiest or most complex. I wish my art acrylics came in them instead of the stupid tubes they do. Droppers are a flat-out downgrade from every angle.
11-28-2009, 11:26 AM
Personally, I am both one of those savages that paints right out of the pot when it dictates, and also thin things down for finesse. p3 bottles vs droppers....How about both?
P3 bottles do indeed keep your paints around longer. Aside from the random times you break a bottle or forget to close it 100%. Droppers clog...it happens...it stinks....and its annoying to clear out as stated.
I came accross a compromise. I went to my local Walgreens and found medical droppers/seringe. for 5 it was only like 10$. Personally I have been using these as measuring tools for mixing paints...as they are small enough on the end to make nice size drops, and also thin enough to go down into my paint pots with east. Now im not talking a seringe like a needle you get shots with. These are wide nosed. Usually clean out very easily with a couple ins and outs of warm soapy water.
And that nasty dried ring around the ends of my pots are not there. I am not pouring out of bottles or lifting out with a brush that can be messy. They work great...easy clean up..and make easy combinations of knowing how many drops per water to thin...mixing ratios to remember for future blending. my 2 cents.
12-25-2009, 05:19 PM
I would have to say that Rave0183 has a solid idea in this, and was considering it even as I read through the post. The only thing I would warn is not sucking up too much paint into droppers or you'll lose some paint over time... still probably not as much as dried rim rings or clogged nozzles and certainly not more than spilled paint!
For the record these plastic droppers are called pipettes. A quick google search will find you plenty of results from health/beauty suppliers, if you're not too macho for those. Personally I find makeup applicator sponges etc to be great for varios textures etc anyway. The tool is important, not the source.
12-25-2009, 05:54 PM
Pots are great .. if you never want to make your own colors, or if you do want to mix, that you don't care about being consistent with color.
I have certain blues I make via formula. 1 drop of this, 2 drops of that. Very easy and much nicer than "smidge of this, smidge of that, I hope this works!".
Bottles > *
12-25-2009, 06:41 PM
I guess this is just another accounting for taste issue. Maybe because I started with pots a long time ago 9original Citadels a few of which I still have) I prefer the pots to the dropper bottles (I do have the entire Vallejo Game Color line.) I'd already thought of transferring the Vallejo into pots i fact. To each their own I guess.
12-25-2009, 09:52 PM
you know, as much as i have a distaste for games workshop
I really really like citadels modern paint containers
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