25P Kaelyssa - How to?

[Hemeroc]

Hey guys, just wanted to ask how you would adjust this first sketch of a list for tournament use with Kaelyssa as a caster.

My First thoughts were something like this:

Kaelyssa +7
Pheonix -10
Griffon -4
Eiryss -3
MHA -2
MHA -2
Arkanist -1
MHSF -5
MHSF -5


What do you think of it? Hope you can help me fix any problems you see!
greetings, Hammer

[PPS_Jen]

I'm wondering if your list will have the staying power for scenario play. If you're going for straight caster kill, I think you're headed in the right direction. But I worry about the durability of the MHSF.

Strategically, what is your goal with the list? And are you limited in the models you can use? I don't want to make suggestions if you don't own the models.

[Mindblends]

Personally, my main suggestion would be to instead of using two min Mage Hunter Strike Force units, personally, I would use one max squad with the unit attachment for the same cost in points.

Difference:
+Tactics: Phantom Seeker
+Tactics: Advance Deploy
+One Unit Commander with higher RAT shot
-Two Standard Grunts

So total loss of one net shot with an increase of 6' initial first turn bonus threat and ignoring line of site and several other shooting modifiers.

Probably a good trade off.

[Chadohfax]

Mindblends beat me to it! I agree with him.
I don't really take jacks that can't shoot with Kaelyssa. Might I suggest a Hydra instead of Chimera, and less solos? With one Pow 14 and one Pow 15 shooting to their warcaster a turn, People will have to deal with you in your terms. And nothing will hide from your shooting, since pretty much everyone in your army will have phantom hunter. :P

[Mod_Redphantasm]

Mindblends beat me to it! I agree with him.
I don't really take jacks that can't shoot with Kaelyssa. Might I suggest a Hydra instead of Chimera, and less solos? With one Pow 14 and one Pow 15 shooting to their warcaster a turn, People will have to deal with you in your terms. And nothing will hide from your shooting, since pretty much everyone in your army will have phantom hunter. :P

Not seeing a chimera in that list.

My issue is less with the jacks and more with the two little mage hunter units. Kaelyssa will drop fairly easily if she gets hit, and doesnt have the fun things like stealth and camoflage to help her avoid the shots. Whe is going to rely on her army to interupt lanes of attack. This is something that the mage hunters cannot do for her. As stealthed models, they would not block LOS to her unless the enemy was within 5" of them. Nothing beats a nice full unit to gum up the works. For this, you'll find Houseguard Halberdiers invaluable.

[PPS_Jen]

With Kaelyssa, I definitely like the Hydra over the Phoenix.

Also agree with the choice of Halberdiers. I was going to suggest both initially, but was sure what sort of limitations the OP was working with in terms of models.

[Mindblends]

With Kaelyssa, ... what sort of limitations the OP was working with in terms of models.

This is sort of the biggest thing here, if you give us more data, we'll crunch you some psudo-scientific jargon resembling (but not equal to) sound theory.

And hey, you got the attention of a forum mod and a templecon semi finalist, Grats by the way RedPhantasm, you make the community proud.