new to khador and war machine

[masakato22]

hello i am starting a khador army and trying to get a decent 25pt list togther. i have posted in the faction forum got a lot of advise but still looking for more.
i am thinking of a min of 2 jacks and at leaset one unit of shocktroopers is thsi viable? any advise welcome.

i have 2 lists i think might work but need somone to look them over for me

25pts
pbutcher
juggernaut
decimator
shocktroopers full unit
widow makers
mechanics min unit

or
pvlad
decimator
destroyer
shocktroopers min unit
mechanics min unit
widow makers

also considering karchev as a caster thanks in advance for your help.

[Polar_Bear]

Welcome to the Iron Kingdoms! *gives masakato22 a cookie and a Decimator plushie* ^_^

As for the lists... sure, those work for me.

PB

[masakato22]

thank you for the plushy and the response. hope to make the list come to life soon

[Uehen]

25pts
pbutcher
juggernaut
decimator
shocktroopers full unit
widow makers
mechanics min unit
Isn't that only 23 points?

Pretty standard stuff here. When I think Butcher, I think Jacks, and I would consider two being the minimum. I like to take larger lists, so I try to load up on cheap ones, but the decimator is pretty sweet, and you may not want to buy two beserkers.

I do not really like the shocktroopers. But then again I do not really like MoW, so take what I say with a grain of salt. Of the three types I would use the shocktroopers most, and most likely with the butcher. But only in a big game where I would want him to hang back for a while and need something wall like to hide behind. They have the base size to block him and very nice armor. But they are slow and slow.

I would rather take a third jack, the butcher loves jacks and dropping these guys for a second juggy or a beserker. Then you can get a second repair crew and a dog.

The widowmakers are great and after getting used to how they work will serve you well and through many games. The repair crew is so good i would take two.

Sooo

Butcher
Beserker
Juggy
decimator
war dog
repair crew x2
widowmakers

that gives you three points left over. three repair crews can be fun and funny. Your jacks will always bounce back, and you have lots of bodies for feat turn. You could then pick up a two point solo that fills some hole. The new sniper solo would fit in well. Or a feild gun.

[tonyzahn]

Shocktroopers with the Butcher are probably a pretty good idea actually. He can put fury on them so their axes are P+S 17. The drop for DEF 11 to DEF 10 doesn't really matter.

Or: you can cast Iron Flesh on them after they've moved so they're DEF 14, ARM 21 (in shield wall). There's not much getting past that while you trudge up the field.