Hooch
Warrior

AA is too big to fit inside the WW bubble.

I used to run Vlad and multiple Destroyers and the Behemoth back in MkI. IMHO MkII killed the viability of the build (and it wasn't an easy build...

I'd be tempted to drop the Agonizer for a Willbreaker, as missing spell attack rolls with Hexy2 is really bad news.

I always wanted Garryth to have Overtake or Side-step. pVyros could have Field Marshal: Focus on Myrmidons adds to ARM.

My personal list is the same as your first one, except the Witch Doc is swapped out for an additional Snapper on Calaban. Also, that Spitter is only...

The Beloved of Sobek also has chicken legs, he definitely looks a lot less beefy than the Wrastler. I find the Sebeki make a great second unit of...

Wrongeye and snapjaw can fill the beatstick role if need be. The Wrastlers animus can be quite useful though, especially if you are running...

I'm assuming that an 18 inch threat on Gorman, with half-decent positioning, has the potential to hem in Karchevs positioning options if not...

Those costs more, and one could debate whether they cause as many problems.

I blind your 5pt rule with an 18" threat Black Oil (not counting AOE template and scatter). with +3" if you can get intrigue off.

Why only 5pts? Why not more? How much does that 5pts support? And for the bonus round: What Karchev player is going to let you have Gorman that...

Supporting 55% (pointwise) of the suggested components is asinine? ... even when that 55% has the ability to shut down the core threats you caster...

Because Gorman has an AOE, and both Gorman and Eiyrss are effected by the minifeat.

Try this. Lieutenant Allister Caine Eiryss, Angel of Retribution Gorman di Wulfe, Rogue Alchemist Madelyn Corbeau, Ordic Courtesan Master...

Take Greylords. 2pts+ 2 of your Berserkers = 2 Ternions and 2 Koldun Lords, or 1 Ternion, 1 KLord, GBs and Wardog.