Lets start PIPing together what coming in the next book

[Rancor]

Shall we begin the age old process of trying to figure out what we are getting in the new book by comparing the released PIPs to the last PIPs released from the previous book.

Who has the most released so far? Is it Cygnar?


31050 - Stormwall
31093 - Artificer General Nemo & Storm Chaser

So what was the last PIP from wrath for Cygnar?

[magi]

These are the PIPs currently empty:

PIP 31074

PIP 31076
PIP 31077

PIP 31080

PIP 31082

PIP 31084

Then Nemo3 picks up at the very end (PIP 31093+).

It's a weird smattering. There must be units that still need to be repackaged, and the PIPs for the originals may or may not become available for new items. The only thing I can think of that hasn't been released for Cygnar is the second plastic jack box (it probably falls into 31082 or 31084). There may be a few models that were scheduled for the last book and assigned PIPs but will be in this book instead. Makes things difficult.

More thoughts:

Retribution will probably give us a better idea, so we should wait until Vyros2 and Hyperion are previewed. My guess is 4-5 new models/units per faction, including the colossals.

[roddo]

I'm hoping for more ua's, or wa's then actual new units. New ua's and wa's breath new life into old units, and are usually cheaper. Gonna be spending enough money on the damn collossals.

[AJ the Ronin]

PIP 31050 is a Superiority PIP.

Nemos3 PIP gives you 15 unassigned PIP not counting those that apparently will be recycled from these units that get a new mini or repacked.

Magi is right, this exercise works best with Retribution since there is less chance of repacking or PIP recycling.

[George Spiggott]

This may be of use: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum...st/280384.page

[PG_Sobek]

There's also the PIP for eAlexia, which is from this book.

That said, it's probably still a bit too early to do this. Not enough has really been leaked about what's in the book to fill any real holes. There's also the issue that not all the PIPs will be filled. There were holes in the PIPs from Wrath/Domination after all.

[magi]

PIP 31050 is a Superiority PIP.

Nemos3 PIP gives you 15 unassigned PIP not counting those that apparently will be recycled from these units that get a new mini or repacked.

Magi is right, this exercise works best with Retribution since there is less chance of repacking or PIP recycling.

Where do you get 15? The PIPs of things that have been replaced already?

Anyway, it is curious that the colossal is a Superiority PIP. Wasn't that when they first conceived the idea/first started playtesting?

[AJ the Ronin]

Where do you get 15? The PIPs of things that have been replaced already?

Anyway, it is curious that the colossal is a Superiority PIP. Wasn't that when they first conceived the idea/first started playtesting?

I did some weird math. Dounted the 6 PIP you mentioned then added the PIP between 31084 and 30193 and didn't took into consideration that those PIP were taken. My mistake.

I don't remember if PIP 31050 was assigned to something or was empty. I know that the PIP missing from Retribution should belong to Wrath. Not sure if the other factions have older PIP unassigned.

[Khador247]

Good luck trying to figure out the PIP # system these days. Here is where we stand for Khador. Note - the Black Dragons' PIP makes no sense at all in relation to the others so I'm not even bothering with it.

33074 Kayazy Eliminators
33075
33076
33077 Gun Carriage
33078 Koldun Kapitan Valachev
33079
33080
33081 Battle Mechanik Unit Attachment
33082 Torch
33083
33084 MOW Shocktrooper plastic kit
33085 MOW Demo Corps. plastic kit
33086
33087 Black Ivan
33088 Kommander Harkevich, The Iron Wolf
33089 Battle Mechanik Unit Box
33090
33091
33092
33093
33094
33095
33096
33097
33097 MOW Drakhun plastic boxed set
33098 Kayazy Assassins unit box

We're also getting the new plastic warjack kit which will include the Demolisher, Devastator & Spriggan but we don't have the PIP# yet. We also know we'll be getting a new Epic version of Vlad on a horse and the Conquest.

[Dark Lord of Puppies]

These are the PIPs currently empty:

PIP 31074

PIP 31076
PIP 31077

PIP 31080

PIP 31082

PIP 31084

Then Nemo3 picks up at the very end (PIP 31093+).

a more complete missing list (not being snarky) should include:

31009
31011
31012
31036
31050 - Stormwall
31075

[magi]

a more complete missing list (not being snarky) should include:

31009
31011
31012
31036
31050 - Stormwall
31075

Wow! I can't believe I missed some of those! I wonder if they just updated the sheet? Weird! Thanks!

[Rancor]

So PPS is so all over the place with what they've announced and what they've released that this isn't even a valid tactic anymore. Nough said, thread over.