Has Herbert West joined our ranks?

[IAN LACEY]

Today a friend was facing a Cryx list I did not get to meet. It was under the leadership of pGoreshade, (he says the warcaster had a 'female' companion which I'm guessing was the Deathwalker, (never used pGoreshade). He attacked a unit of Banes, (either Knights or Thralls), and the turn after he had killed some of them A FIGURE in the vicinity of the unit brought them back into play next turn. Clearly not a Necro-surgeon, not even an improperly used one, (he's faced mine on many occasions), nor was it Bane Lord Tartarus adding to the unit, because these were not models killed by him. Apparently Tartarus was not on the table. He is also equally adamant that he was not facing Revenant crew, he'd recognise zombie pirates if he saw them, so this was not a QM doing its job.

So what was it? Goreshade had already popped his feat and brought in the minimum unit of Bane thralls, so it was clear this was not a Feat event. Nor was it Epic Goreshade, so it could not have been the Bane Bond. I may be missing something really obvious but I do not recall any Cryx model with this capability. (bring back Bane casualties? Yes please!)

[juckto]

Only thing that can put more Banes on the table:
pGore's feat
eGore's elite cadre
BLT

+Edit
excarnate
eGaspy's feat
eGore's feat
Reinforcements

[nonchalance]

Only thing that can put more Banes on the table:
pGore's feat
eGore's elite cadre
BLT

Also, Excarnate.

[Crate123]

Did he use his feat perhaps ?
That adds a new unit of 6 Banethralls.

[juckto]

Heh, I knew the chances were good that there would be *something* I missed.

[Cambrian]

eGore's feat brings back casualties.

I have an alternate theory: there was a play mistake and a model/unit was used improperly. Not saying it was, just a possibility not to be overlooked.

[IAN LACEY]

Still not really sure what was going on, but my friend does not really know whom he was playing against. I intend bringing pGoreshade into my lists, probably in 2013, (I have a LOT of white metal to get through), so maybe one day he will figure out what it was. Many thanks for all replies.

[Talpa020]

Hi Ian,
i was watching that game for a while, this was a scenario match with reinforcements.
Your friends opponent had 6 bane thralls as reinforcements. ( 5 points)
So after he killed some banes , his opponent brought his reinforcements in.

He must have had plenty banes as having goreshade as caster

So unfortunately no mystery models for us bringing back our slain warriors

Regards

[IAN LACEY]

Reinforcements? Quelle supris' he neglected to mention that little detail!

[IAN LACEY]

This would also be the game where he persuaded his opponent that Alexia could Dominate Undead, on DJ. (Warjacks are not living, therefore they are 'undead'. NO!) Oh, did I neglect to mention he also sent Orin Midwinter to face the Withershadow Combine?, scarfed up FIVE power tokens, and then used arc lightning, (wrongly; he not only used a power token to boost the first attack, but also the subsequent arc attacks), and Orin can only have three in the first place. Please note, I was busy playing my own game so I was not witness to any of this, and only found out later.

[TheHydrogenator]

who the hell is Herbert West?

[under]

who the hell is Herbert West?

Fictional character from Lovecraft, Link.

[Sheer_Falacy]

This would also be the game where he persuaded his opponent that Alexia could Dominate Undead, on DJ. (Warjacks are not living, therefore they are 'undead'. NO!) Oh, did I neglect to mention he also sent Orin Midwinter to face the Withershadow Combine?, scarfed up FIVE power tokens, and then used arc lightning, (wrongly; he not only used a power token to boost the first attack, but also the subsequent arc attacks), and Orin can only have three in the first place. Please note, I was busy playing my own game so I was not witness to any of this, and only found out later.

Note that Orin can, in fact, boost the bounces on his lightning. It doesn't say the damage rolls are unboostable. The rest is pretty ridiculous though.

[PG_Nathan213]

Dr. Herbert West , I will assume the post is talking about the movie Reanimator . Great show. He makes a serum that can bring the dead back to life, although they are crazy. Like bane Thralls would be I suspect.

[IAN LACEY]

Note that Orin can, in fact, boost the bounces on his lightning. It doesn't say the damage rolls are unboostable. The rest is pretty ridiculous though.

?Bounces? Fair enough. No, He was boosting the TO HIT rolls because he thought that the subsequent arcs still had to roll to hit their next targets, which they don't, (looking at you Kayazy)

[Sheer_Falacy]

?Bounces? Fair enough. No, He was boosting the TO HIT rolls because he thought that the subsequent arcs still had to roll to hit their next targets, which they don't, (looking at you Kayazy)

Err, I meant he can boost the damage on the POW 10s from the bouncing. He can't boost the number of bounces.

And I see, it wasn't so much a cheating player as a player with very little idea about the rules.

[Mathai]

I have a player in my meta who futzes the rules by ignorance that way to...its still cheating

[IAN LACEY]

I have a player in my meta who futzes the rules by ignorance that way to...its still cheating

Yyyyeeeessss...I'd concur, especially as I know for a fact that he has never read the rules. What he knows of them, and the information on the cards of his OWN models/units, comes from 'DVD commentary'. I am his principal opponent, but I am not infallible, (y'all seen the posts to prove it!), so for instance, if I used Orin, and acquired power tokens, (or the Withershadow Combine), he will only have learned what he has SEEN. I do not use the Combine very often, let alone Orin. We may be charitable and describe him as a...work in progress. He does tend to get irate when I introduce a new model/unit/spell/ability, and have not taken the time and effort to fully brief him on them. Same goes for making Tough rolls without using Casino dice.
Having said that, last night I introduced him to Terminus; he was suitably impressed.