35 pt Magnus lists. Thoughts?

[prohias]

Wanted to get opinions on these 2 lists:

Mercenary Theme Force
Tier 4: Most Wanted
34+6 points, 20 models

Magnus the Traitor +6 points
* Mangler 8 points
* Mule 8 points
* 2x Renegade 5 points each

Gorman Di Wulfe, Rogue Alchemist 2 points
Kell Bailoch 2 points
Orin Midwinter, Rogue Inquisitor 2 points
6 Steelhead Halberdiers 4 points
6 Steelhead Halberdiers 4 points

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Mercenary Theme Force
Tier 4: Most Wanted
34+6 points, 21 models

Magnus the Traitor +6 points
* Mangler 8 points
* Nomad 6 points
* 2x Renegade 5 points each

Gorman Di Wulfe, Rogue Alchemist 2 points
Kell Bailoch 2 points
Orin Midwinter, Rogue Inquisitor 2 points
Saxon Orrik 2 points
6 Steelhead Halberdiers 4 points
6 Steelhead Halberdiers 4 points

[Mael]

I like it. I'm more partial to taking Orin over Kell for his pathfinder in this scenario, but both could work. Have you thought about upgrading one of the units to Riflemen? You have one point kicking around in both lists, and the Riflemen still get the extra move bonus.

[prohias]

I have, but I don't own them yet.

Probably my next purchase - them and Stannis =)

[prohias]

Considering swapping out two of the solos for Stannis?

Having a difficult time picking...

Thoughts?

[rydiafan]

I wouldn't. You don't have enough steelheads to need his tactician ability, and without that he doesn't bring enough to be worth losing the utility of two of your solos.

[FearMeMortals]

I would like the Nomad over the Mule for pMags.

[prohias]

Has evolved to this:

Mercenary Theme Force
Tier 4: Most Wanted
35+6 points, 21 models

Magnus the Traitor +6 points
* Mangler 8 points
* Nomad 6 points
* 2x Renegade 5 points each

Gorman Di Wulfe, Rogue Alchemist 2 points
Kell Bailoch 2 points
Orin Midwinter, Rogue Inquisitor 2 points
Saxon Orrik 2 points
6 Steelhead Halberdiers 4 points
6 Steelhead Riflemen 5 points

Seems balanced to me

[PG_vytzka]

Uh... is there any particular reason why you don't want to be using Halberdiers + min Cavalry instead of Halbs/Halbs or Halbs/Rifles?

Nomad is alright with Magnus as the second heavy but the Mule is lovely too.

[prohias]

I don't own the cavalry

[prohias]

Uh... is there any particular reason why you don't want to be using Halberdiers + min Cavalry instead of Halbs/Halbs or Halbs/Rifles?

Nomad is alright with Magnus as the second heavy but the Mule is lovely too.

I just bought the Cavalry and will be running them.

Maybe something like this.

Magnus the Traitor +6 points
* Mangler 8 points
* Mule 8 points
* 2x Renegade 5 points each

6 Steelhead Halberdiers 4 points
3 Steelhead Heavy Cavalry 6 points
6 Steelhead Riflemen 5 points

Have also considered full Halbs, dropping the riflemen and adding Stannis.

Having a real tough time coming up with a list.

This is for a tourney

[PG_vytzka]

Minimum Halberdiers die REALLY quickly so a full unit is recommended.

Also consider adding Saxon for Pathfinder.

[rydiafan]

Minimum Halberdiers die REALLY quickly so a full unit is recommended.

Also consider adding Saxon for Pathfinder.

With this logic I would actually drop the Mule in favor of Saxon and a second unit of halberdiers. With the remaining 2 points I would max one of the units or get Gorman.

[prohias]

Whats thoughts on swapping Mule for Mariner.

In my experience Mule has been more of a deterrent rather than inflicting any damage.

Thinking Mariner would be better for possible caster kill?

[canadianone]

the mariner certainly would have impressive range with snipe, but you loose arcing fire which is great for caster kills. Honestly, with 2 renegades, i think he has the ranged assassination threat comfortably filled.