Reznik's NQ Tier List Knocking on Heaven's Door

[Tera]

Greetings fellow Menites, has anyone have any great success playing Reznik's NQ tier list in the new SR 2012 format? Also how do you approach his tier? I been researching and seem to find a mix of answers. Some players utilizes the advance deployment of the sunburst while others take advantage of the steelhead calvary. Would the vessel of jugement be a necessity in his tier? I would like to know your experiences and thoughts on the matter. Thank you all for your help.

[wazatdingder]

This tier can do many things well, it is up to you to decide where you focus your build. Steelhead Cav is one option, I have been trying it with mixed results, but mostly I need to learn cav better. VoJ is another option, I have been better with that. Jack spam, only time I go T4. It is hard to get all three of these options running at their full potential in one list, you can maybe squeeze 2 into one list.

[Tera]

That's where I'm not sure how to approach his tier. I currently play at 35 pts so T3 seems to be the most optimum for that level of play. Probably 1 reckoner + 1 vanquisher, x2 vassals, 1 or 2 sunburst and VOJ for some nice shooty with the steelhead halberdiers as the tarpit. Any other thoughts?

[Gaston]

At 35 pts you're gonna have to def make some cuts. I believe that the full Steelhead block itself is 20 pts.

Halberdiers 6
Max Cav 10
Brocker 4

That being said, the Cav will mess some people up badly, and are my favorite way to run the list.

The two paths it seems that most people take is to either go to T3 and take the VoJ or go to T4 and take 3 heavies. AD Sunbursts rock, and the VoJ can Doors of Judgement them

[Tera]

Calvary and Stannis is a steep price to commit as I am not a merc player =(. However I never though of using the sunburst as a VOJ target, can that actually work? The ruling on the cards seem to say so but I could be wrong. Anyone can clarify?

[jandrese]

As far as I can tell there is no reason you can't use DoJ on the Sunburst. You can even use this to keep the thing alive longer, you keep one of the grunts ~4-5" back from the leader and his assisstant, then if they both die due to blast damage or just two attacks, you can use DoJ to move the sunburst back into range of the remaining grunt so he can be properly promoted instead of just turned into an officer. Also, it gets to shoot because the no-move & shoot rule only applies during your activation.

[FranzGrenstein]

I have be thinking about this, the list get free RO for every steelhead unit, right?

If that is the case, why not take the SH riflemen they would be cheap replacement for Idrians.

[Gaston]

Calvary and Stannis is a steep price to commit as I am not a merc player =(. However I never though of using the sunburst as a VOJ target, can that actually work? The ruling on the cards seem to say so but I could be wrong. Anyone can clarify?

It is a very steep price, $$$ wise. I proxied the full thing multiple times before I commited; before the NQ list I didn't own any of them. I can say that it made for a very fun game for me though, and I do believe that the money was well spent.

Regarding the VoJ and DSC: When the combo first came up, I threw up a post in the rules forum. The general consensus was that it was totally fine, but IIRC there was never a completely official Inferno ruling and the thread is not locked.

[PG_Steampunk Jim]

Rezniks NQ list seems to be an expensive option, no matter which way you go. Steelhead Cav cost a lot. So do two Vessels and a slew of halberdiers, in my case.

[Tera]

Yeah its a very expensive list to commit to but I do believe its worth it. I just need more experience and insights before I make my decision. I don't like the rifleman since the list is shooty enough and a tarpit feels needed to block charges for our important models. Not to mention the halberdiers can dish out some damage with ignite and paired CMA on a charge they are hitting at Mat 9 Pow 15 3d6.

[jandrese]

I'm not a huge fan of the riflemen honestly. Military rifles suck for ranged units, and the Steelhead riflemen have no tricks to mitigate the fact that they're badly equipped. I do like the Halberdiers. They trade off better MAT on the charge for worse MAT otherwise, but they also hit considerably harder on the charge. The free AP adds a little bit of spice to the unit too. My only gripe with them in this theme list is that with MAT 5 they're pretty disappointing for Doors of Judgement.

I have not tried the Steelhead Cav in this list, but I can see where that could be interesting.

[Gaston]

Cav is effective with Ignite up; took 2 of them for me to drop an EBDT. They've also accounted for an Archidon, a Cyclops Savage, and a Rhinodon. There is a big, big catch to them--they really only shine on the charge.