I'm considering picking up Menoth as a sister faction to go alongside my Legion.
I've gone through their Forces book a couple times and definitely like what I see.
Here are the conclusions I've come too so far. Please don't be afraid to correct me if I've got something wrong!
Vanquishers make great replacements for Ravagores (Take Roven if you really need to hit Stealth, who is basically your average 2 point support solo plus 2 buffed up 1 point Knights... is he considered good? I like him).
What's a good replacement for Scytheans as your Heavy Beatstick? I'm not seeing anything that really strikes out at me on that one. Reckoners and Templars seem the best choices here but compared with Scytheans they seem a bit lacking to me for 8 points.... I'm brand new to Warmachine though so I can't be sure.
The Avatar is fantastic. For 11 points he is just incredible.
pSeverius is awesome. He seems like one of the most well balanced 'casters in the entire game. With his spell load out I could see him running pretty much anything.
Eye of Menoth is a better version of pVayls Incite. His other spells are rock solid too, with Vision probably the worst of the bunch just because it's so easy to negate. They don't even have to damage to wipe it and the faction has Low DEF so that one might not actually be worth casting.
His feat is pretty cool too but suffers badly from Mohsar Syndrome. Against Hordes it just becomes pretty meh. I guess you don't field him against Hordes then yeah? Who's a great Anti-Hordes Protectorate caster to pair him with?
Errants with Seneschal + UA seem like a stronger and more well rounded take on Legions Strider Module. Stick Defenders Ward and EoM on them and I'm sure they become a real pain in Scenario Play.
The Same goes for Flameguard + UA. +1 SPD, +1 DEF, Shield Wall, Cont Fire and Terror > Legionnaires. Especially with such easy access to DW. Jam Jam, Jam on Toast!
Zealots seem pretty powerful. I guess one idea with them would be to jam your opponents, mini-feat if needed, if not pop it next turn and then bomb into all your own combats? Nice. Rat 7 POW15s under EoM. Woo!
Vilmon + Paladins are a bit match up dependent, but if your opponent lacks ways of dealing with them (Legion without Hex Hunters for example) they could be seriously disgusting. In some ways the stance is even better than Incorporeal because you can run them up the board, free strike people and still be immune. Damn!
Also Vilmon? *** where they thinking seriously? MAT 9 POW15 WPN MASTR with Reach? I guess his a 3pt solo with only 5 health but holy Menoth that seems strong.
Knights Exemplar are okay. They don't seem anywhere near as good as Bane Thralls even without the Banes amazing UA/Tartarus combo. They compare alright alongside Legions Swordsmen with Bond of Brotherhood but imo they should really have Reach, POW12s or something for their cost and fragility. They don't really seem worth taking when our other Infantry is so good. Why not Zoidberg? (or Errants).
Stuff I'm unsure on: Heirophants, Monks and Mechaniks all seem pretty meh. Compared with the other Warmachine Factions Mechaniks the Menoth ones seem pretty average. Monks could have potential as annoying DEF 17 charge blockers but they really needed Acrobatics to get my vote. Heirophants... just seem bad. I look at Legions Succubus or Cygnars Squire and they seem so much better. Have I got it wrong here?
Finally, who would you say are the top #3 Competitive Warcasters for Protectorate and what do they normally like to run in Masters-type events. Infantry, Jacks, Mixed, Shooting, Melee, Combined Arms?
Thanks for any help you can provide everyone!
My local meta have this wierd idea that Menoth are way down the totem pole of powerful factions. I've heard several of them say they are worse than Mercanaries, which would mean in their opinions they are dead last. I just don't see it. Menoth seems awesome! I can't wait to prove everyone wrong.