July Releases Posted By The Warstore

[Blaque]

I would rather see PP go back to a every other year format with each system.

That wouldn't change anything, actually. Note that books are getting less things per year now compared to the MkI books. I personally doubt it would change anything if they had that format.

And stuff.

[Watchtower]

I would rather a book every year with 5 things than a book every 2 years with 10 things. More fluff, more art, etc.

[PG_Cloud-Gatherer]

It's also likely the rules for Colossals are going to be in the May NQ.

I'll be very sad if they're not.

[PG_LunarSol]

It looks like the 2nd chassis and the colossal releases are inverted. Just a guess.

Jack/Colossal
Feb Mercs/ Jun Cygnar
March Ret/ July Khador
July Menoth/August Cryx
August Cryx/September Menoth
September Khador/ November Ret
November Cygnar/December Mercs

The Cryx jack kit is releasing in May.

[PG_carnage4u]

warghbl no witch doctor yet. lol.... At least that means my wallet wont be hit as bad with all this crazy good stuff coming out.

[Strangelove]

No Avenger kit? If Khador and Cygnar go August and September in whatever order that'll put Wrath at almost two years to wrap its release. That's bonkers considering how small that book was.

[PG_Steampunk Jim]

Plastic kits for both factions I play in the same month. Yikes.

Which is odd, because there's only one plastic kit coming out in July.

[Maou_Mint]

I like this release schedule. It will make it easier for me to save up for the Kraken in August as June will be a nasty month for me what with the two Road Hogs, Finch & sidekick Nemo3, and Stormwall that I'll want to pick up...might be forgetting something there too...

[Uratoh]

My money...my...precious, precious money...

[ForestZ]

Bleh...at this rate I might as well just buy a metal Spriggan. :/

[correlation2]

Don't do it! Just look, IFP repackage! There's still hope!

[PG_Pyrodude32]

Actually - the metal Spriggan is a really solid model. It was difficult to get the legs to line up - but man does it look good (somehow I managed to do this perfectly - on the second attempt, after I grabbed a new base, which is why I keep extra bases).

[Mod_Gemini]

Yay Tibbers! *squee*

[PG_LunarSol]

I'm not fond of its legs, personally. Same with the Devastator. After seeing what PP did with the Reckoner, I won't dare pick up a metal until I've seen what the plastic has to offer.

[PG_Sobek]

No Avenger kit? If Khador and Cygnar go August and September in whatever order that'll put Wrath at almost two years to wrap its release. That's bonkers considering how small that book was.

Wrath hasn't even been out a year, yet.....

[ForestZ]

Wrath hasn't even been out a year, yet.....

My copy says first printing March 2011, so it's been more than a year. But I'll agree the he's exaggerating a little.

[PG_LunarSol]

Wrath hasn't even been out a year, yet.....

He's counting from the time the first Character Upgrade Kits were released, which was at Gencon '10 I believe.

[PG_Mr. Golden Deal]

Well if you want to get pedantic about it, the first Wrath releases came out Gen Con weekened in 2010, which is what I think he was trying to get at.

[AJ the Ronin]

Well if you want to get pedantic about it, the first Wrath releases came out Gen Con weekened in 2010, which is what I think he was trying to get at.

That was the regular MO. Superiority stuff was first release in NQ 1...and that was before we even had Apotheosis in our hands (and just found out about epic casters).

I keep saying this new schedule is boring. The book is out in 3 months and the only thing out is Alexia? A book that loooks will be very low on models.

Say what you want but once you read he book new releases is what keep interstate up. I wonder how they plan to keep interest on WARMACHINE once the minuscle release is done.

[Exemplar's_Gaze]

This is why I am glad I am a one-faction man. Yes, I'll take the Menoth plastic kit, that is all

[correlation2]

x2 books worth of fluff, at least.

[Strangelove]

My copy says first printing March 2011, so it's been more than a year. But I'll agree the he's exaggerating a little.

The first models, the first wave of character jack kits, came out in December of 2010 I believe. So no, its not an exaggeration since July would make it 19 months since the release cycle started. If it wraps in September that's 21.

[rivenwyrm]

Bleh...at this rate I might as well just buy a metal Spriggan. :/

Unless you're really set on Devastator + Demolisher, you'll probably want a Spriggan + a Demolisher/Devastator at some point, so getting a Spriggan isn't a bad choice. I got one months ago when it looked like the plastic kits weren't gonna be out for ages. You're still probably looking at 4-5 months before we get the lot. We know nothing about what's in this speculative plastic kit. It may not even include a Spriggan. It may just be a metal Demolisher. Who knows!? PP won't say anything about it (honestly that's the part that's most frustrating to me). Odds are good it's the three of them, but we can't really say.

[DoktorVivi]

Unless you're really set on Devastator + Demolisher, you'll probably want a Spriggan + a Demolisher/Devastator at some point, so getting a Spriggan isn't a bad choice. I got one months ago when it looked like the plastic kits weren't gonna be out for ages. You're still probably looking at 4-5 months before we get the lot. We know nothing about what's in this speculative plastic kit. It may not even include a Spriggan. It may just be a metal Demolisher. Who knows!? PP won't say anything about it (honestly that's the part that's most frustrating to me). Odds are good it's the three of them, but we can't really say.

Also, buying one early means you can have one right now (which is good, because they're awesome), and when the plastic ones come out you can have two of them!

[PG_Cloud-Gatherer]

I don't understand people reacting to good news (here's the new stuff for a given month!) as if it were bad news. Yes, some things are taking a while to come out. We have seen from previous releases that this is a thing that occasionally happens. Would you guys prefer if PP didn't release ANYTHING new until all the old stuff is out? Keep in mind that the release of, say, the Stormwall has ZERO impact on the release of the Avenger kit. None. The only reason new releases would be held back is to soothe the hurt feelings of people who are still having to wait for some older things. Is it good business to just sit on new releases because unrelated production delays have hurt some people's feelings?

[Jake the Dog]

Which, by itself, seems wierd. The first Colossal will be released before the general Colossals rules are? Unless they release the book early at L&L, which I'm sure everyone is hoping for.

I'm pretty sure May's NQ will preview Collosals rules.

[correlation2]

Some people just don't want Bombardiers version 2.

[PG_Cloud-Gatherer]

Some people just don't want Bombardiers version 2.

I get that. Nobody wants a repeat of the Dawnguard Destor Delay Debacle. What I don't get is what that has to do with things that ARE released. Not releasing Thing B will in no way expedite the release of Thing A. It stands to reason, then, that PP would go ahead and release the things that are ready regardless of the things that aren't.

[Vicomte Athos]

I get that. Nobody wants a repeat of the Dawnguard Destor Delay Debacle. What I don't get is what that has to do with things that ARE released. Not releasing Thing B will in no way expedite the release of Thing A. It stands to reason, then, that PP would go ahead and release the things that are ready regardless of the things that aren't.

Yet we saw the miniatures for the winter argus, swamp horror and lightning troll a LONG time ago but they are taking forever to be released.

[Antigonus]

In my case the annoyance is due to having made a list for the ETC in July with an Avenger in it, as it seemed a reasonable assumption that the model would have been released within 15 months (March 2011 - June 2012) of the book coming out.

That reminds me - must come up with a couple of alternative lists and post them for feedback.

[PG_Cloud-Gatherer]

Nice strawman.

If you have the masters to produce studio reproductions there really is no reason not to bring them into circulation.

I think you are assuming a great deal here. Do you really think PP has these models ready to release and is CHOOSING to make everyone wait?

[rivenwyrm]

It's also possible, although entirely speculative, that the models we see in the gallery and insiders are typically the original sculpts. Which would help explain some of the longer delays, since when they show us they may still be working on the mold.

[PG_Vynde]

I think you are assuming a great deal here. Do you really think PP has these models ready to release and is CHOOSING to make everyone wait?

I do, its called a "release schedual".. not a "put it out when its done schedual" lol

[AJ the Ronin]

I do, its called a "release schedual".. not a "put it out when its done schedual" lol

Is in the company best interest to put the stuff that is ready on the street and sell it instead of save them on a warehouse.

Also keep in mind that, PP have better control on their metal products since they are done in-house (and that does not mean that is a procedure problem free). The plastics are done overseas. This add a lot of elements that make delays more common.

[PG_Ghool]

It's also possible, although entirely speculative, that the models we see in the gallery and insiders are typically the original sculpts. Which would help explain some of the longer delays, since when they show us they may still be working on the mold.

Some of the studio models are very likely resin rapid prototypes.

[Watchtower]

Most of the delays seem to be on the plastic models, which are produced in China I believe. Not really in PP's control if their subcontractor takes a long time.

[Jake the Dog]

Some of the studio models are very likely resin rapid prototypes.

Was about to say this. Resin prototypes for Studio painting are pretty standard in the industry.

[Lord Sessadore]

Was about to say this. Resin prototypes for Studio painting are pretty standard in the industry.

I've been thinking this most of the day and haven't had a chance to post it, too. Especially since they seem to be sculpting some models digitally (BE's and Colossals come to mind) it's easier for them to get a rapid prototype printed to paint for the studio than to get molds made and take one of the first production run for the studio. It also lets them get the studio models painted in order to preview ahead of the actual release date without diverting production resources towards a limited run before they're ready to start full scale production of a given model.

[PG_Sobek]

In my case the annoyance is due to having made a list for the ETC in July with an Avenger in it, as it seemed a reasonable assumption that the model would have been released within 15 months (March 2011 - June 2012) of the book coming out.

I believe Wrath was released June 15th, 2011. Not March.

[bakaryu]

Darn, I had hoped that not only the Colossals book but also all of the new warcasters at least would be available at Lock and Load but this July release list makes the prospects of that look increasingly unlikely.