July Releases Posted By The Warstore

[PG_Sobek]

Darn, I had hoped that not only the Colossals book but also all of the new warcasters at least would be available at Lock and Load but this July release list makes the prospects of that look increasingly unlikely.

I'm still hoping that they'll have the new warcasters there. It wouldn't be the first time they've had stuff available at a con WAY in advance of when they're being normally released. eAlexia and the character warjack upgrade kits come to mind.

[Vex]

I think you are assuming a great deal here. Do you really think PP has these models ready to release and is CHOOSING to make everyone wait?

It is not implausible. PP wants a roughly even number of releases per month to maintain interest in the brand. So, even if they were to have models ready, they may choose not to release them in order to prevent gaps in the release schedule. Of course, this is more likely for models which are not over-due, such as Domination models. At this point I would expect Wrath models to be released as soon as it is possible to do so.

[PG_Sobek]

As far as the number of models in the book is concerned, let's not start panicking or get too pessimistic yet. Remember, when Wrath came out, they did say that they had FAR more stuff ready in development than they could put into the one book, so would have to wait to put them in future books. We'll most likely see many of them in Colossals.

[Khador247]

I think it would have been nice to bring out the casters the same month as the book like they usually do. If there is a Colossals release event in July then most of the factions won't have their new caster. Last year you earned a point if you took a new Wrath caster.

[Khador247]

As far as the number of models in the book is concerned, let's not start panicking or get too pessimistic yet. Remember, when Wrath came out, they did say that they had FAR more stuff ready in development than they could put into the one book, so would have to wait to put them in future books. We'll most likely see many of them in Colossals.

It is hard to tell anything from the PIP numbers anymore but here is what they've looked like for Khador lately.

33050 Conquest - July 2012

33074 Kayazy Eliminators
33075
33076
33077 Gun Carriage
33078 Koldun Kapitan Valachev
33079
33080
33081 Battle Mechanik Unit Attachment
33082 Torch
33083
33084 MOW Shocktrooper plastic kit
33085 MOW Demo Corps. plastic kit
33086
33087 Black Ivan
33088 Kommander Harkevich, The Iron Wolf
33089 Battle Mechanik Unit Box
33090 IFP Unit Box - July 2012
33091
33092 Vlad, Great Prince of Umbrey - July 2012
33093
33094
33095
33096
33097 MOW Drakhun plastic boxed set
33098 Kayazy Assassins unit box

33902 Black Dragon UA

The known Colossals releases are in red. Well I'm at least assuming that the Black Dragons will be in there. PIP #s 33091 and 33093-33096 COULD be Colossals releases. If so that would give give us 8 new releases for the book. Hard to say though. There could be repackaged units or resculpts in those numbers and there are still gaps in the numbers from last year.

[detton]

Still no Avenger... Darius needs his new best buddy!

detton
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[Uratoh]

Posting with the update from official PDF!

Warmachine: Colossals PIP 1049 $34.99 (Softcover)
Warmachine: Colossals PIP 1050 $44.99 (Hardcover)
Khador Conquest PIP 33050 $134.99 (resin and white metal)
Khador Iron Fang Pikemen PIP 33090 $84.99 (repackage, white metal)
Khador Vladimir T...Double Epic Vlad. Name Too Long. PIP 33092 $39.99 (white metal)
Protectorate Casti/Reckoner/Sancifier Jack Kit PIP 32070 $34.99 (plastic kit)
Trollbloods Sons of Bragg Char Unit PIP 71063 $TBD (white metal)
Circle Orboros Winter Argus PIP 72060 $14.99 (white metal)
Legion Succubus Solo PIP 73060 $16.99 (white metal)
Skorne MISTAH TIBBAHS Upgrade PIP 74061 $17.99 (white metal)
NQ #43, featuring Siege Animantrax in G&G, Gavin Kyle on Hoarluk Doomshaper, and playable IKRPG content.

The Winter Argus seems...odd to me, since it's only $14.99, and it comes in a box, but claims to be metal.

[Karyle]

I'm guessing the Sons of Bragg won't be under $40.

[Blaque]

The Winter Argus seems...odd to me, since it's only $14.99, and it comes in a box, but claims to be metal.

They might do one of the little boxes like they do for the plastic light warjacks, still.

And stuff.

[Alex C]

Sons of Bragg! Woot!

[PG_LunarSol]

Urk. It was already looking to be a wallet busting month with Vlad3 and Conquest. Adding the Sons of Bragg isn't going to help...

[PG_Steampunk Jim]

Look at them, slipping the sons in there like a boss!

[PG_aterdaeus]

No Avenger kit? If Khador and Cygnar go August and September in whatever order that'll put Wrath at almost two years to wrap its release. That's bonkers considering how small that book was.

Wrath was in no way small. Look how many casters there were. Plus the first Battle Engines, plus tons of plastic kit resculpts.
I thought Wrath was way too big. Domination was the perfect size for me.

[jandrese]

The Winter Argus seems...odd to me, since it's only $14.99, and it comes in a box, but claims to be metal.

Regular Argus costs $12.99 and is metal, so that $14.99 price point seems pretty much in line with the price creep over time. It does seem a little strange that it comes in a box instead of a blister, but I think PP is trying to move away from blisters in general. I think the boxes might actually be a bit cheaper since they don't put the foam in them (which has caused many broken choirboy staffs sadly).

[PG_Steampunk Jim]

Wrath was in no way small. Look how many casters there were. Plus the first Battle Engines, plus tons of plastic kit resculpts.
I thought Wrath was way too big. Domination was the perfect size for me.

Wrath had one caster per faction. That's a lot of casters? 8 releases per faction including one caster is huge, but 7 releases per faction with two casters per faction is perfect size? I'm terribly confused.

[Jake the Dog]

Posting with the update from official PDF!

Warmachine: Colossals PIP 1049 $34.99 (Softcover)
Warmachine: Colossals PIP 1050 $44.99 (Hardcover)
Khador Conquest PIP 33050 $134.99 (resin and white metal)
Khador Iron Fang Pikemen PIP 33090 $84.99 (repackage, white metal)
Khador Vladimir T...Double Epic Vlad. Name Too Long. PIP 33092 $39.99 (white metal)
Protectorate Casti/Reckoner/Sancifier Jack Kit PIP 32070 $34.99 (plastic kit)
Trollbloods Sons of Bragg Char Unit PIP 71063 $TBD (white metal)
Circle Orboros Winter Argus PIP 72060 $14.99 (white metal)
Legion Succubus Solo PIP 73060 $16.99 (white metal)
Skorne MISTAH TIBBAHS Upgrade PIP 74061 $17.99 (white metal)
NQ #43, featuring Siege Animantrax in G&G, Gavin Kyle on Hoarluk Doomshaper, and playable IKRPG content.

The Winter Argus seems...odd to me, since it's only $14.99, and it comes in a box, but claims to be metal.

Double Epics don't exist. They're just new Epic versions.

[Jake the Dog]

Regular Argus costs $12.99 and is metal, so that $14.99 price point seems pretty much in line with the price creep over time. It does seem a little strange that it comes in a box instead of a blister, but I think PP is trying to move away from blisters in general. I think the boxes might actually be a bit cheaper since they don't put the foam in them (which has caused many broken choirboy staffs sadly).

TheWarStore has the Winter Argus listed as plastic. I think that is why it's priced and packaged like a Warmachine Light.

[lastspartacus]

So no Galleon by gencon...

[PG_LunarSol]

So no Galleon by gencon...

That was pretty guaranteed. Kraken might not make it either.

[PG_Steampunk Jim]

TheWarStore has the Winter Argus listed as plastic. I think that is why it's priced and packaged like a Warmachine Light.

The Privateer Press site doesn not have it listed as plastic. I would go with the posting by the company that produces the model. It's possible it's listed wrong on the PP site, but I wouldn't count on it.

[PG_LunarSol]

I am kind of surprised the Winter Argus isn't plastic considering the body is being used to differentiate the two Argi in the battlebox.

[Jake the Dog]

The Privateer Press site doesn not have it listed as plastic. I would go with the posting by the company that produces the model. It's possible it's listed wrong on the PP site, but I wouldn't count on it.

I would count on it. TheWarStore listings haven't failed me yet. The price, the box packaging, and the fact that it used the same body as the plastic Argus all point to plastic.

[Rynth]

The Privateer Press site doesn not have it listed as plastic. I would go with the posting by the company that produces the model. It's possible it's listed wrong on the PP site, but I wouldn't count on it.

PP's site first listed the Archidon as a metal resin hybrid. When it arrived it was full metal. Now begins the waiting for the truth?

[PG_ForsakenPoptart]

Does it being metal or plastic have an impact on any of you buying it?
If so, why?

[PG_Caecus Scius]

Take my money

[Blaque]

I am kind of surprised the Winter Argus isn't plastic considering the body is being used to differentiate the two Argi in the battlebox.

PP has shown they'll use the same masters for both plastic an dmetal. See the battlebox warlocks and warcasters also being available in metal, the Legion heavies being basically recasts of the metal ones, and the new Titan and Dire Troll kits being based on versions of the previous metal ones.

I think anything about, "This is plastic, so this has to be" is kind of faulty reasoning.

I would count on it. TheWarStore listings haven't failed me yet. The price, the box packaging, and the fact that it used the same body as the plastic Argus all point to plastic.

The price, as noted, is no indicator (metal is cheaper here, some lights in metal are mroe). Box packaging is also not in itself a precedent save through induction (it hasb een before, so will be, is not actually valid reasoning). And it contradicts the PP site itself, which runs on a policy of metal unless stated otherwise.

So actually, no evidence conclusively points it to being plastic.

PP's site first listed the Archidon as a metal resin hybrid. When it arrived it was full metal. Now begins the waiting for the truth?

PP does metal and resin in-house. This means that models might switch-up in production. In fact, this is why we have previously metal kits now as hybrids, or models being one material in one releas,e but having parts made of different stuff later like the Storm Striders from L&L last year to actual date having resin railings become metal ones0.

Plastic, by contrast, is something they setup and do overseas. So the chances of sudden material swap is less likely there. I think it is safer to assume you might get or lose metal randomly, but a kit is not plastic unless it says it is I find.

Does it being metal or plastic have an impact on any of you buying it?
If so, why?

Not for me. But I think folks should do to have a bit of skepticism, personally.

And stuff.

[Drzombieface]

Bleh...at this rate I might as well just buy a metal Spriggan. :/

The metal Clamjacks are going to be way more imposing, since the plastic one are going to have all that armor, then suddenly weigh less than a warrior model. Plus you can use the metal ones to Sockjack people.

[Uratoh]

Metal Spriggan's an excellent model. Served me well since the day it came out. I am kind of looking forward to the plastic clamjacks themselves though, since I'll finally be able to properly magnetize one for open/shut shenanigans.