Trollbloods help

[Arden]

I'm torn between the two 35 point lists below. Please let me hear your thoughts...

LIST #1

pGrissel (+5)
Min. Kriel Warriors- 1 leader & 5 grunts (4)
Caber Throwers x1 (1)
KW UA Standard Bearer & Piper (2)
Krielstone Bearer & 3 Stone Scribes (3)
Stone Scribe Elder (1)
Fell Caller Hero (3)
Trollkin Long Riders- 1 leader & 2 grunts (7)
Horthol Long Rider Hero (5)
Troll Impaler (5)
Dire Troll Mauler (9)

LIST #2

pGrissel (+5)
*MAX* Kriel Warriors- 1 leader & 9 grunts (6)
Caber Throwers x3 (3) Two more than list #1
KW UA Standard Bearer & Piper (2)
Krielstone Bearer & 3 Stone Scribes (3)
Stone Scribe Elder (1)
Fell Caller Hero (3)
Trollkin Long Riders- 1 leader & 2 grunts (7)
Horthol Long Rider Hero (5)
Pyre Troll (5)
Troll Bouncer "or" Troll Impaler (5)

[Saraminss]

between the 2 I would go with list 1 ... the Mauler is worth so much ... more than the extra Kriel warriors IMO...

[EvilFuzzyDoom]

Impaler's not got much to buff in either list so you're like to find it somewhat lacklustre.
The KSB is also going to get left behind by the Kriel Warriors & Long Riders since one is getting Hoof It and one has Spd 7 - Min KSB + UA only has a maximum aura of 9" and that's not likely to happen often.

Here's what I'd take:
Grissel Bloodsong (*5pts)
* Pyre Troll (5pts)
* Dire Troll Mauler (9pts)
Kriel Warriors (Leader and 9 Grunts) (6pts)
* 3 Kriel Warrior Caber Thrower (3pts)
* Kriel Warrior Standard Bearer & Piper (2pts)
Trollkin Long Riders (Leader and 2 Grunts) (7pts)
Fell Caller Hero (3pts)
Horthol, Long Rider Hero (5pts)

[Digestive]

Impaler's not got much to buff in either list so you're like to find it somewhat lacklustre.
The KSB is also going to get left behind by the Kriel Warriors & Long Riders since one is getting Hoof It and one has Spd 7 - Min KSB + UA only has a maximum aura of 9" and that's not likely to happen often.

Here's what I'd take:
Grissel Bloodsong (*5pts)
* Pyre Troll (5pts)
* Dire Troll Mauler (9pts)
Kriel Warriors (Leader and 9 Grunts) (6pts)
* 3 Kriel Warrior Caber Thrower (3pts)
* Kriel Warrior Standard Bearer & Piper (2pts)
Trollkin Long Riders (Leader and 2 Grunts) (7pts)
Fell Caller Hero (3pts)
Horthol, Long Rider Hero (5pts)

Hmm, wouldn't take two dmg Animis, seems redundant. I'd complement the Pyre with the Impaler and fill the missing 4 pts. with the Krielstone. The Pyre Animus has a strong defensive side and is better then the Maulers Animus on the Long Riders, also with the optional +1 Strength from the Stone you have the same per model dmg boost as the Mauler's animus. The Krielstone can (and should) activate the aura and then run, so he will be fast enough and with Kriels and the Long Riders you have two relatively high arm Units which profit more from the stone than Fenns or Pygs, imo.

[Arden]

Thanks for the Imput... Lookin forward to trying it out

[Arden]

Alright, here's where I'm at. I'm set on the following list exept for one thing... I CAN'T SEEM TO CHOOSE MY FINAL WARBEAST!!!!! It shouldn't be this hard as I only have 5 points to spare and there are only so many 5 point Trollblood Warbeasts!!! Probably makin a big deal outta nothin and I'm leaning towards a Bouncer or giving up one Caber thrower (although I really don't want to) in lieu of a Slag troll (6pts)!!! Oh, did I mention, I already have an Impailer in hand ?!?!?! UGGGHHHHH!!! I'd appreciate any thoughts or opinions. Thanks

Grissel (+5)
*MAX*Kriel Warriors- 1 leader & 9 grunts (6)
Caber Throwers x3 (3)
KW UA Standard Bearer & Piper (2)
Krielstone Bearer & 3 Stone Scribes (3)
Stone Scribe Elder (1)
Fell Caller Hero (3)
Trollkin Long Riders- 1 leader & 2 grunts (7)
Horthol Long Rider Hero (5)
Pyre Troll (5)
??????? Troll (?)

[EvilFuzzyDoom]

I'd go with the Impaler for that lineup. Pyre troll can use the Impaler's animus to good effect and the Impaler can use the Pyre's animus likewise. The Impaler is no slouch in melee.

[Arden]

Alright... here's what I'm goin with. Please send coments if you have any. I just need to know if this army seems as if it would give me a chance to be competitive at a local level. Thanks

35 point list

Grissel (+5)
*MAX*Kriel Warriors- 1 leader & 9 grunts (6)
Caber Throwers x3 (3)
KW UA Standard Bearer & Piper (2)
Krielstone Bearer & 3 Stone Scribes (3)
Stone Scribe Elder (1)
Fell Caller Hero (3)
Trollkin Long Riders- 1 leader & 2 grunts (7)
Horthol Long Rider Hero (5)
Pyre Troll (5)
Troll Bouncer (5)

[Arden]

I just need to know if this army seems as if it would give me a chance to be competitive at a local level. Thanks

35 point list

Grissel (+5)
*MAX*Kriel Warriors- 1 leader & 9 grunts (6)
Caber Throwers x3 (3)
KW UA Standard Bearer & Piper (2)
Krielstone Bearer & 3 Stone Scribes (3)
Stone Scribe Elder (1)
Fell Caller Hero (3)
Trollkin Long Riders- 1 leader & 2 grunts (7)
Horthol Long Rider Hero (5)
Pyre Troll (5)
Troll Bouncer (5)

[Arden]

I played my list this past weekend and, for the most part, I was very happy with it. I'm already working on my 50 point list based on my 35 point list. Below is my current 35 point list and the additions I'm thinkin of to bring it to 50 points!!! All comments are welcome... I love to hear different opinions

35 points

Grissel (+5)
*MAX*Kriel Warriors- 1 leader & 9 grunts (6)
Caber Throwers x3 (3)
KW UA Standard Bearer & Piper (2)
Krielstone Bearer & 3 Stone Scribes (3)
Stone Scribe Elder (1)
Fell Caller Hero (3)
Trollkin Long Riders- 1 leader & 2 grunts (7)
Horthol Long Rider Hero (5)
Pyre Troll (5)
Troll Bouncer (5)

To take the list to 50 points I'm thinking about removing the Pyre Troll (5pts) and adding:

Two(2) Trollkin Long Riders (making a full unit) (additional four points)(4)
Dire Troll Mauler (9)
Sons of Bragg (These guys have not been released as of yet but look like they would be awesome with my army)(6)
Two(2) Additional Stone Scribes (making a full unit)(1)

Looking forward to your thoughts and opinions...