Swamp Horror...Why is thou so small?

[santospr]

As the topic title says. Why is there Swamp Horror so much smaller than he looks in the art. I have just got him, built and painted him up, and I must say I am truly dissappointed with the size of this model. I do not understand why it is even on a large base when it is just as tall as out medium based models or smaller even. The boneswarm being close to it in size is very disturbing. Does anyone else actually have this beast in their hands? Anyone know of why it is the way it is?

I like the look of it, its just the size that makes me wonder.



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[MagnustheJust]

I could tell you, but then I would become Snackjaw's next nom...

[Sanctjud]

It's not the size, it's how you use it?
???
That makes no sense....better yet: I got nothing :-/

Art was amazing, made us expect too much I guess... le sigh :-/

[Sellsword]

yeah, he's definitely... underwhelming

[mortal]

Agreed, love the look of the model, but needed to be about 20% larger.

[Halfhoot]

Umm... I guess I"m the only one to be relieved at a warbeast that actually fits on the base so you don't have to turn it backwards or proxy it with an empty base 90% of the time? Really? It's just me??

[Washburn]

Yep, I'm also dissappointed with it. Great sculpt just too small. I had planned to bulk mine out with some GS work but it dawned on me I would have to add that much I would be better off finding an alternate model to convert. I will get a 2nd Swamp Horror down the track and I'll have work something out.

On a positive note, perhaps the lack of presence this model had will cause opponents to ignore it

[Yertle4]

They probably should have saved the concept for a Colossal or Battle Engine given the super sweet book art, but I'll take it.

[SneaklePete]

This isn't just a Swamp Horror issue.

Played a game against a friend of mine yesterday. Been so long he had yet to see my Gator army. I ran an Ironback Spitter. And his response was "Wait, that's a large base model? Are you sure? It looks way to small to be large base."

The IBS is tiny. The Swamp Horror is tiny. Does it bother me? Not really, not more than a Blackhide Wrastler having more ARM than a giant f****ng turtle. That one seems stranger to me. Honestly, it just makes positioning and transport that much easier.

[bouncymischa]

The models are simply cute little baby horrors, that aspire to someday grow up to be big like the one in the art!

[FifthColumn]

When I put my SWamp Horror next to my Aspis and Aspis TOWERED over Swampy, I was kind of nonplussed. When I put Swampy next to my brother's Hunter and realized that Cyg's babyjack is bigger than our terrifying monstrosity, I was a little flabbergasted. I Guess it's just one more thing for an emo octopus to feel emo about:

This song occurred to me the first time I saw the art for Swamp Horror...

[MagnustheJust]

In all seriousness, it was probably to keep production and retail costs down. Especially considering the material costs of tin these days...

[Alex C]

It needs to be at least three times bigger!

[Sardonic Artery]

It needs to be at least three times bigger!

Ha, perfect.

Also, there's good reason I've been slagging it as the Bathtub Horror, jr. for a long while.

[PG_talonhawk01]

Umm... I guess I"m the only one to be relieved at a warbeast that actually fits on the base so you don't have to turn it backwards or proxy it with an empty base 90% of the time? Really? It's just me??

I'm with you on this. I was surprised how small it was, but once it was together, I liked the way it looked. It fits on the base, so there are no nightmare positioning problems so common for heavies, AND it's a heavy warbeast for less than 30 bucks. Positioning ease, nice low cost, and still having a wicked sculpt changed my mind pretty quickly about the issue of its size.

[StefDa]

I actually quite like the Swamp Horror being a tad on the small side - as someone said it makes the Horror cheaper (yay!) and it actually keeps within its base (also yay!). And as someone else said, why the heck does the Wrastler have more ARM than the Spitter, a giang turtle?? Also, having owned a turtle I can tell you how strong those little mofos are... STR 10 doesn't cut it in my opinion, neither does ARM 18. I guess it's a matter of game balance, and in that case I'm perfectly fine with it, countrary to what I seem like.

[drazz00]

Maybe the scale isn't different at all from the art.

Maybe the Tharn chicks are all just really, really small themselves.

[gaminguy]

It does rather look like the late bloomer that the cool kids beat up for it's lunch money, doesn't it.

From what I can see it only has 27 hit boxes, that's a pretty small number for a heavy. My Archidon is that light and it's very flimsy if you can hit it, the Swamp Horror doesn't have that kind of defense. Being tiny makes a certain amount of sense when you look at it that way.

For what it's worth, Gators don't have any great speed buffs floating around; extending the Wrastler's threat range by 17% is a pretty good deal.

[Poppabear40]

It's just begging for an extreme version... I'll do some awesome swamp basework on mine and i'm sure it will look wicked.

[MagnustheJust]

It does rather look like the late bloomer that the cool kids beat up for it's lunch money, doesn't it.

From what I can see it only has 27 hit boxes, that's a pretty small number for a heavy. My Archidon is that light and it's very flimsy if you can hit it, the Swamp Horror doesn't have that kind of defense. Being tiny makes a certain amount of sense when you look at it that way.

For what it's worth, Gators don't have any great speed buffs floating around; extending the Wrastler's threat range by 17% is a pretty good deal.

Umm.. the Archidon is a heavy beast dude...

[SneaklePete]

Umm.. the Archidon is a heavy beast dude...

I think he meant "light" as in squishy, in the same sense that a Helljack is "light" compared to the Behemoth.

[Borkas drinking buddy]

I felt the same way about the book art being really misleading. I think our midget swamp horror has got to be a baby one. It looks like it would have trouble holding on to one Bloodtracker let alone shred an entire unit of them. This was a pretty big let down for me as I had such high hopes for the model. Initially, I was thinking that it would be a model composed of one large base for the head and around four small bases for tenticals that would have to remain a set number of inches away from the head base. But I suppose that was too much work for the people at PP.

[gaminguy]

Umm.. the Archidon is a heavy beast dude...

I think he meant "light" as in squishy, in the same sense that a Helljack is "light" compared to the Behemoth.

Yeah that's the gist of it. I really like what the Archidon brings to the table, but it really doesn't hold up long against anything that doesn't struggle with Def 14. The SH doesn't even have that going for it, although it's ARM stat is deceptive.

[Sardonic Artery]

Maybe the scale isn't different at all from the art.

Maybe the Tharn chicks are all just really, really small themselves.

Drank the same water as the Black 13th, no doubt.

[BakerGaspy]

Wow Zoolander. Just too good to not be. Also I really like the model, even if it were bigger I would have hoped for only a slight increase.

[SneaklePete]

Yeah that's the gist of it. I really like what the Archidon brings to the table, but it really doesn't hold up long against anything that doesn't struggle with Def 14. The SH doesn't even have that going for it, although it's ARM stat is deceptive.

Impervious Flesh is a nice bonus. Steady, on the other hand, is near useless with such a low def stat. Actually worse than that, it prevents throw shenanigans and takes it down another notch.

The concept of a baby swamp horror is interesting though. This train of thought opens us up to the possibility of other "Horror" variants, much as I would like to see other "Blackhide" variants. I mean, there's four different Titans in Skorne, why not a Bog Horror that grants Prowl?


All this aside, I still intend on grabbing one. It's a cool model, and as others have said pretty low on cost dollar-wise.

[Deo85]

Its.... Its so small O.o the sculpt is amazing and the fluff made this model sound amazing but I never expected such a little guy. Have you guys gotten pretty good mileage out of the model so fare? Is it primarily meant to be anti infantry option?

[perilsensitive]

He is there to give Maelok hugs. That, and to make Wrastler shenanigans even more shenanigan-y

[Halfhoot]

I will admit that... I saw "steady" and said "ah geez... why did they have to put one negative rule on it..." lol.... only gator players...

[gaminguy]

Glad I saw it here instead of out in the field. I can just imagine getting 2/3 of the way through my elaborate assassination run only to realise I can't Rise the Stead Swamp Horror.

[Sardonic Artery]

I see it replacing the spitter in my Barny list, though I've been down on the turtle for a long while. I don't get 8 points worth out of him.

[gaminguy]

I can't believe I commented on this without crying "Skornergy!", Steady and Rise easily qualify. (You know, outside of neither model being in Skorne.)

[santospr]

Could he actually pull off a triple handed throw? 3 open fists...why did they give him 3 then?

[MagnustheJust]

Could he actually pull off a triple handed throw? 3 open fists...why did they give him 3 then?

I'm guessing you missed this little nugget of joy then!! -

http://privateerpressforums.com/show...-Horror-Wishes

[Sardonic Artery]

Can't bag on the little squid no more's -- tonight he iced Nightmare (save a box) in a single turn. But where oh where does that small piece add on to this model?

[Space Donkey]

It goes on the end of one of the tentacles in the back. And don't do what I did and throw away the beak that's on that same piece thinking it was just extra flash.

[Halfhoot]

It goes on the end of one of the tentacles in the back. And don't do what I did and throw away the beak that's on that same piece thinking it was just extra flash.

.... uh oh...

[EtherealPaints]

not sure on the scale but the cthonian larvae could be a suitable alternative for those of you who don't like the original sculpt.

[EtherealPaints]

not sure on the scale but the cthonian larvae could be a suitable alternative for those of you who don't like the original sculpt.

Or if you have GS skills. Danger from the Depths kraken figure.

[MagnustheJust]

O.o

Why are there Lego bits on your Kraken???