2 Lists for June 35 Point Tournament

[VagrantPoet]

I'd love some feedback on these lists:

eKreuger
-Megalith
-Stalker
-Gorax

Bloodtrackers
-Nuala

Shifting Stones
-UA
Swamp Gobbers
Gallows Grove

My thoughts: I like this list, its fairly solid, but I don't know if it clears infantry swarms very well, or whether I would be better with another wolf and some more gallows groves. I'm also not entirely sure what factions it does well against. I think most Legion, as stormwall can stop a lot of shooting and I can hopefully reel in beasts.

Kromac
-Ghetorix
-Feral
-Stalker

Druid and Woldstalkers

Shifting Stones
-UA
Swamp Gobbers

My thoughts: I only recently started playing Kromac, and I really enjoy this list, but I the lack of pathfinder on two of my wolves and and the lack of something to take my threat ranges above 14" is beginning to worry me a bit. I know a lot of players get over pathfinder by clever placement and maneuvering, but sometimes Ghetorix gets killed if he moves the extra inch to touch the base of the wall, and clever opponents will use walls against me.

Neither of my lists deals well with infantry swarms, and there are a good few trollbloods players, cryx players and a serious morvahna player in the area.

Suggestions? Would Mohsar be a good addition to my roster? One of the things I like about eKreuger is the option to counterfeat against some of the truly nasty feats in the game, ala Saeryn, eHaley, etc. Mohsar's pillars are also a way to slow the game down, but I have to wonder if its good enough. Especially as Angelius can fly right over.

[Dark Fledgling]

I would make the suggestion to drop the Feral in your Kromac list for a Gorax and a second unit of Woldstalkers. In addition to having more opportunities to trigger warpath, having the extra unit to hold objectives is really useful. It also solves alot of your not-enough-attacks-to-kill-infantry-swarms problem. Besides, while Kromac is amazing, without a way to boost str you'll still bounce of most Armor buffed heavies. The gorax fixes this problem and I think it overall adds more versatility to the list.
For the eKrueger list, I think I would drop the Shifting Stones UA for a second Gallows Grove. The reason being that eKrueger likes targeting his own shifting stones with Lightning Storm to get those stay-in-place AoE's just where he wants them, and this can be hard when them stones are stealthed! Besides, Stormwall should keep those stones from getting popped early by ranged, and the extra Gallows Grove will help deal with tough, self-sacrifice, and other things that can prevent your attacks from working. If your really worried about anti-infantry though, you could drop the Stones and the Gobbos for the Lord of the Feast, but that totally changes things at that point...

As far as your thoughts on Mohsar go? Hah, I've been working on a tourny list for him and its almost exactly what you have put in your eKrueger list. The only change I made is dropping the Gallows Grove and Swamp Gobbos for a Wilder to help your activation order so you can put up pillars after your stalker has sprint away (you can do it now, but the stalker has to use two fury for his own animus, and I'd rather the Wilder cast it). I think Mohsar makes a great tourny caster, especially at lower points levels where people have less stuff that can break your pillars.

As far as wether or not you should swap him out? Its personal I feel. I for instance would take Mohsar over eKrueger, but then again I typically run him in his new tier list which is totally different then the list you've built (he's very versatile like that). In fact, I think eKruegers tier will end up being Mohsar's counterpart, so that I have one anti hordes list, and one anti warmachine list. Atleast, thats the current theory

The moral is do what you like. I think if you swap that feral for Woldstalkers/Gorax though you'll have an easy answer for infantry spam, where as the eKrueger list can be more tailored towards scenario. Remember though, play testing is always the better then any advise we can give you
Hope that helps.

-DF

[VagrantPoet]

Really good suggestions. Thank you! I'll definitely try out the list with the gorax to see how it goes.

I'll also probably try out a similar Mohsar list. Good tip on the wilder, I'd had that problem.

[VagrantPoet]

I'm also trying to think of reinforcements.

For Kreuger I'm thinking of Lord of the Feast, a blackclad and a gallows grove.

While for Kromac I think Gorax, blackclad and gallows grove.

[VagrantPoet]

Current plan, because my increasing worries that I can't deal with Cryx/Khador infantry.

pKreuger
-Feral
-Stalker
-Gorax

Bloodtrackers (full) + Nuala

Stones x2

Gallows Grove x2

Swamp Gobbers

Reinforcements: Blackclad + Woldwyrd

AND

Kromac
-Ghetorix
-Stalker
-Gorax

Woldstalkers
Bloodtrackers (min)

Stones + UA
Swamp Gobbers

Reinforcements: Blackclad + Woldwyrd

I'm more or less out of money though, so I can't make too many changes.

I'd still love some feedback and suggestions on what matchups to take. I'm still learning Kromac and have yet to start using pKreuger.

[mercury]

I would personally lose the Blood Trackers and Gobbers in the Kromac list, and replace them with a Wilder and LotF. You really want a Wilder in there for passing round the Lightning Strike and Primal animi.

The pKruger list is fine, but not quite to my tastes because I feel that Blood Weavers >> Blood Trackers. I'd maybe consider swapping the Stalker and a tree for Megalith to really enhance your anti-infantry skills. I rotate between the two set ups and find that I marginally prefer Megalith over the Wolf & tree, but again that's just personal preference.

[VagrantPoet]

I agree on the bloodtrackers. But I don't have bloodweavers. And I won't in time, but bloodweavers are indeed the bomb with reach + gang