Artificer General Nemo spoilers on BoLS

[Dan from Chicago]

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2012/...eral-nemo.html

me likey!

[bouncymischa]

WELL!

That does seem rather "super stormsmith" like :3 Given that it's RNG is CNTRL, I wonder how that works in terms of LOS?

[PG_Bubblybrew]

That looks like a lot of fun, but are we sure? Where does BoLS get this information?

Pop pop!

[PG_Dino-Czar]

WELL!

That does seem rather "super stormsmith" like :3 Given that it's RNG is CNTRL, I wonder how that works in terms of LOS?

If it's a gun would require LoS as normal. The only thing range CNTRL allows for is a high variability in the actual distance the gun can shoot.

[Alex C]

Wow. POW10 on 2-4 targets. Thrilling. [/sarcasm]

Hopefully there's some other shenanigans going on, or Finch makes it better somehow. Or he simply has a rocking spell list like the other Nemos.

[Dan from Chicago]

Alex C,

perhaps you missed the fact that these are boostable ...

Lightning generator differs from electro-leap like that

[PG_Dino-Czar]

Also, its his gun. I doubt you bring him because he is a RAT 5 shooting powerhouse.

[PG_Agamemnon]

Nemo1 has D6 boostabe that can be channeled far beyond his control... and can be cast 3 times.

[Alex C]

Also, its his gun. I doubt you bring him because he is a RAT 5 shooting powerhouse.

Exactly. The big Nemo3 spoiler turns out to be stats on his gun. That's like "spoiling" the mount attack on Vlad's horse.

Just about anything in Cygnar's arsenal that has anything to do with lightning does this sort of thing. It's nothing new, just more POW10. Sure, it may be boostable, but I can think of many better things to do with Nemos Focus than boost his ranged attacks.

I guess I was just expecting a better spoiler.

[Ysthrall]

Hmmm. Anyone thnk he'll take a loss in focus gouing legendary? No? Didn't think so. So, this is a 14" rng shot. 16" with the squire. Magical weapon? could be, although some warcasters have only magical melee weapons. Will Reinholt reload him, probably...

so lets assume squire, reinholt, and magical weapon. He shoots two Menoth heavies, and fries all the choir within a few inches of each of them, at 16". Or blasts paingivers off Skorne heavies. Or shoots his own stormsmith in the back and arcs into a few Kayazy/MHSF/Striders.

It's not like, by now, we don't know all the horrible things we can do with electro-leap. And guys... it seems to be boostable... I could go for a boosted POW 10 on Denny from 16" + 4" eleap away...

[PG_yogadragon]

Hmmm. Anyone thnk he'll take a loss in focus gouing legendary? No? Didn't think so. So, this is a 14" rng shot. 16" with the squire. Magical weapon? could be, although some warcasters have only magical melee weapons. Will Reinholt reload him, probably... so lets assume squire, reinholt, and magical weapon. He shoots two Menoth heavies, and fries all the choir within a few inches of each of them, at 16". Or blasts paingivers off Skorne heavies. Or shoots his own stormsmith in the back and arcs into a few Kayazy/MHSF/Striders. It's not like, by now, we don't know all the horrible things we can do with electro-leap. And guys... it seems to be boostable... I could go for a boosted POW 10 on Denny from 16" + 4" eleap away...

I suspect that Finch will prevent you from taking Squire.

[Ender101]

This is ...weird. Really, really weird. Mini chain lightning is nice and a cool little throw back to Nemo1, and Rng has potential to be 14-18 if he gets a foc bump and squire (assuming he can even take squire that is. My guess is that he will not). Not quite what I was hoping for from the art with his largest gun yet, and by far lowest pow, and both other versions were rat 5, so we'll have to see what else he and finch bring to the table. *Nemo is rarely taken for his awesome guns though, so can't wait for the spell list.

Interesting concept though, so I'm cautiously optimistic. Whooo Nemo!

*cough* cautiously.

[bouncymischa]

I suspect that Finch will prevent you from taking Squire.

On the other hand, for all we know, Finch may boost all lightning damage rolls Nemo3 makes!

[WindlordRyu]

Wouldn't surprise me if Caitlin actually does more for your control area than the Squire. Possibly similar to how Deryliss works for Mortenebra.

[Alex C]

On the other hand, for all we know, Finch may boost all lightning damage rolls Nemo3 makes!

If it is indeed something along these lines then I'll start being impressed by this weapon.

[Ender101]

The lack of magical weapon and disruption seems odd. Granted Nemo is all about the Science! but disruption or at least crit disruption seem like shoe ins.

Unless...

Maybe he doesn't use rat? Will depend on the fluff behind the weapon, but it kind of sounds like it could potentially be a storm call-ish thing.

[Demeritus]

That looks like a lot of fun, but are we sure? Where does BoLS get this information?

Pop pop!

This info is legit as they get that kind of stuff straight from PP.

[bouncymischa]

The mention of disruption (or the lack of it) did make me think of shooting Colossals with this thing. LOS certainly won't be an issue, and it's a nice big target to bounce lightning chains off of... :P Heck, considering that most Colossals will likely have mechaniks trailing after them to keep them going, this gun could be a nice way to get rid of them. Better than most AOEs, at least...

[Jake the Dog]

I bet Nemo will have a way to get more than 14" Control Area. Note this on Caitlin Finch's description:

Nemo's assistant, Storm Chaser Adept Caitlin Finch, takes to the battlefield at his side, utilizing precisely tuned mechanikal apparatus to augment Nemo’s command over warjacks to unparalleled mastery.

I'm thinking Caitlin will augment his area somehow.

[Rynth]

Nemo1 has D6 boostabe that can be channeled far beyond his control... and can be cast 3 times.

Nemo1 has to pay 6 points for the Arc Node, more than 6 points to get the spell casters to give him power tokens, and pay 9 focus so he probably isn't running his jacks very well or casting any other spells.

Nemo3 has to pay 0 points for an Arc Node, 0 points for spell casters to empower him and pays 0 focus to take the shot every turn. Nemo3 can take a Squire to increase his range a little and Rienholdt to give himself an extra attack.

If you want to complain about the spoiler because its not very exciting/you have stuff that does this already then fine, but the gun is solid and complaining about it just sounds like mweh.

[Jake the Dog]

Nemo1 has to pay 6 points for the Arc Node, more than 6 points to get the spell casters to give him power tokens, and pay 9 focus so he probably isn't running his jacks very well or casting any other spells.

Nemo3 has to pay 0 points for an Arc Node, 0 points for spell casters to empower him and pays 0 focus to take the shot every turn. Nemo3 can take a Squire to increase his range a little and Rienholdt to give himself an extra attack.

If you want to complain about the spoiler because its not very exciting/you have stuff that does this already then fine, but the gun is solid and complaining about it just sounds like mweh.

Squire is probably a no go. Note he has Caitlin Finch.

[Rynth]

Squire is probably a no go. Note he has Caitlin Finch.

She might be a Companion which wouldn't interfere with bringing a Squire. Most warcasters who have a buddy have the Companion rule rather than the Attached rule.

[Blaque]

She looks more like the Keg Carrier than she does the Deathwalker when comparing buddy solos. I think it is probably good to be at least somewaht planning to be an Attachment me thinks.

And stuff.

[PG_KestrelM1]

I'm thinking Caitlin will augment his area somehow.

This sentence is solid gold.

[Ysthrall]

I now have a horrible idea for Finch:

All warjacks in N3mo's ctrl area gain 1 focus during allocation, before N3mo does anything. Also +2 damage bonus to all electrical effects and weapons.

Damn it, now I want the next spoiler.... it's like chocolate raisins....

[PG_Dino-Czar]

I now have a horrible idea for Finch:

All warjacks in N3mo's ctrl area gain 1 focus during allocation, before N3mo does anything. Also +2 damage bonus to all electrical effects and weapons.

Why stop there? Maybe she boosts all electrical type damage in Nemo's control and adds 1" to nemo's control for every focus he allocates.

(no way does she do this)

[Jake the Dog]

This sentence is solid gold.

At last someone gets my comedic genius.

/serious That was completely unintentional

[Sardonic Artery]

Wow. POW10 on 2-4 targets. Thrilling. [/sarcasm]

Hopefully there's some other shenanigans going on, or Finch makes it better somehow. Or he simply has a rocking spell list like the other Nemos.

I'm with Alex C on this one. More POW 10s in Cygnar just make me groan.

[leo_neil316]

Nemo1 has D6 boostabe that can be channeled far beyond his control... and can be cast 3 times.

And eeNemo will be able to do 2D3 +2 leaps just by taking rienholdt. Saves all that focus for other things!

And people going 'old man stats!' eNemo went from ARM 14 to ARM 16. Who's to say that he doesn't get +2 RAT at this stage? Also cygnar. We hit what we want.

And hell. I could see finch giving him an additional die on ranged attacks without stretching my imagination at all.

[sleet01]

I'm with Alex C on this one. More POW 10s in Cygnar just make me groan.

Not me. The past two incarnations swapped spells and weapons, with one spell (Locomotion) getting strictly better in the move from Nemo1 to Nemo2 and one focus-increasing ability (Arcane Accumulator) morphing into a more powerful feat. I figure that if Nemo3 has Chain Lightning as his gun, that means he's probably got something better than Energizer or Voltaic Snare as a feat and some kind of electricity-based Sacrificial Lamb-type spell. Plus if Finch is anything like Deryliss, she'll be able to cast one of Nemo's cheaper spells for free. I can't wait.

[Stephan Garmark]

I'm with Alex C on this one. More POW 10s in Cygnar just make me groan.

I like POW 10's that doesn't need to hit though, I think the gun looks solid.

[ShockFist]

Yay! More anti-infantry stuff! Like we don't already have a ton of that....

[Ender101]

The gun will only be one part of the Nemo3 package . . . since when do we hate mini-chain lightnings? Do pow 10's get eye rolls, yea, but auto hitting pow 10's are generally ok. Boostable auto-hitting pow 10's seem like they would be fine.

The real trick will come when we see his spell list, if he has a bunch of heavy hitting spells I have no problem with an anti-infantry gun that can hit from halfway across the board, especially if it doesn't use rat to hit or gets buffed by Finch who has a gun which looks suspiciously similar.

And if he has a crummy spell list? Well then his gun is the least of his problems.

[Dan from Chicago]

What if his feat was an extra die on electrical damage rolls?

(yes, there's a hella huge synergy with Thunderhead, but I don't think it's necessarily broken .. after all, the Butcher can take the Behemoth)

[sleet01]

What if his feat was an extra die on electrical damage rolls?

(yes, there's a hella huge synergy with Thunderhead, but I don't think it's necessarily broken .. after all, the Butcher can take the Behemoth)

Pshawright, and maybe medium-base 5-wound infantry will fly out of mah butt!

[cannonball]

If 3Nemo had a melee option then yes, rate his gun although he doesn't so its all gravy isn't it?

[Griffin839]

Looks like a job for * trumpet sounds*

Reinholdt!


Also do not forget the storm strider's buff. Move him up to enemy and they all take pow 12s from the gun.

[cannonball]

Isnt it +2 to attack rolls?

[sleet01]

Looks like a job for * trumpet sounds*

Reinholdt!


Also do not forget the storm strider's buff. Move him up to enemy and they all take pow 12s from the gun.

Negative, Ghostrider: Superconduction provides a +2 RAT bonus only. If you have been playing it as a DMG buff please go apologize immediately.

[Dan from Chicago]

Pshawright, and maybe medium-base 5-wound infantry will fly out of mah butt!

If so, you might want to check your diet

Seriously though, what's wrong with it? Compared to other damage increasing feats ,,, like eSorcha, Siege, Durgen, the Butcher, etc ... what makes it worse?