future monsterpocalypse factions and series

[insectasaur]

i would like to ask some questions / state my opinion about the future of monpoc

1: what sort of new factions can we expect?

2: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE THE STRATEGY GUIDES, I WANT MORE STRAT GUIDES!!?!?!?

3: will we be getting DMZ packs and a two-player battle box for the new sets?

4: i would ask you guys at privateer press not to put magic/demons/undead in future sets-i simply think it does not fit in the theme-some people don't play games BECAUSE of that stuff by the way

5: i would like to see more civilian units

6: i would like to see character units for the original 6 factions

7: according to the planet eaters backstory there were "SIX gargantuan creatures with lesser minions" SIX! not FIVE! they need one more, PLEASE return to the original factions for a set so they can get another monster

8: when is the movie coming out?

9:when is series 6 coming out?

[Arestoatal]

1. This has been wildly speculated upon for many years. We've heard of giant humans and an undead faction, but I cannot recall the other spoilers.

2. Stratigie Guides are a waste of money on both sides. Fans can take anything apart rules-wise in a matter of seconds. Ask them.

3. Quite likely, but nothing has been said.

4. Hah. I do not support your claims. Gaming companies are much cleverer than I am when it comes to creating faction, and I have done magic, demons, and other, weirder stuff. Just take a look at the apes.

5. Unconfirmed, but likely. They're a nice addition.

6. Unconfirmed and un-talked about.

7. Bigger headache than where the 6th planet eater went: Is Vorgax a true monster. nothing in his various bios support him being a true monster; they all claim he is a result of symbiotic evolution. But a return to the 1st set is not unheard of.

8. Late 2012-2013

9. After legalities are done with. One more reason why game companies regret movie deals.

[insectasaur]

i know my dad and several other people will stop playing entirely if there is an undead faction -probably me too (and i will not tell anyone they should play or that the game exists-without zombies i will love playing, and i will tell everyone how awesome monpoc is-or privateer press can add zombies and ruin all interest i have and prevent many people from even knowing about the game- and many people from liking it because i'll probably tell them it is rubbish)
so Privateer Press, please do not add zombies -some kids won't be ALLOWED to play because zombies are essentially walking gore -and besides; zombies versus godzilla things? =WHAT?!?!?

about people who want undead stuff: REALLY?!?!?!, you probably have zombie games-play those, zombies do not need to be in EVERYTHING-this is a SCIENCE fiction, not a fantasy game-i hate how much undead stuff is used-aliens that apear someone zombie-like: *shrug*, okay, actual zombies: stupid -this is my reaction to zombies in monpoc, "elemental" magic monks was pushing it for me, undead stuff would just make me turn around and leave this game entirely, i started getting back into this game (after i stopped playing monpoc, started 40k, stopped 40k, restarted monpoc) i was thinking "you know, this game is not bad-it's just one slightly unfitting faction, i guess i'll keep playing" (i have ALWAYS hated elemental champions-so have others i know) -if you noticed, the game got less popular after the new factions -including elemental champions -i am yt to meet anyone who likes them.

[Arestoatal]

Cue Argument:

We're not talking about zombies here; they're a genre apart. However, undead monsters could make an appearance. There has been talk of the "Ghost Godzilla" in regular daikaiju films. Undead could seriously work. If you want an example of something they made work, take a look at the Empire of the Apes; They are out-of-the-box ideas, and manage to be very unique.

I like the new factions better than the old ones. They seem better defined than the past ones, and don't have some of the balancing issues the past ones had. I rank Elemental Champions as a good of an idea as the Martian Menace or the G.U.A.R.D. Other players play the E.C. exclusively, and don't dis their monsters. The E.C. have made their mark on the game. They're a force so powerful, they caused game abilities to be nerfed.

[insectasaur]

i don't care what kind of undead things they are, i still hate the idea, if they did aliens that resemble undead things; i would hate the game less, i do not want ghosts the size of skyscrapers
and if they kept the elemental champions; but explained all that stuff with technnology; i would love it, i just hate hearing "magic" in every single game in existance -especially in "science" fiction

[Rick Blaine]

I have it on good authority that this here is a full list of future sets, figures and PP's plans for Monsterpocalypse.

[PG_Ice Dragon]

(i have ALWAYS hated elemental champions-so have others i know) -if you noticed, the game got less popular after the new factions -including elemental champions -i am yt to meet anyone who likes them.

Hmm. If you have ever attended a gaming convention (MonCon, MonCon West or Gen Con) I think you would find a different story when it comes to the Elemental Champions. Tectomoc is one of the more popular figures, bordering on Top Tier (if he isn't there already). You can easily add Aquosia to that list, and even Incinerous was very popular before ignite got nerfed. Elemental Champs are very popular, and played a lot.

[Kingbobb]

Isn't thew whole background of Mothra basically magic? Tiny little girls sing a song and giant moth appears to defend the earth? That's not science of any kind.

The Kaiju genre embraces magic, nearly as much as it does science.

As for a zombie faction...I wouldn't really care, other than that it meant we'd be getting a third block.

[CovenantPhil]

4: i would ask you guys at privateer press not to put magic/demons/undead in future sets-i simply think it does not fit in the theme-some people don't play games BECAUSE of that stuff by the way

I personally feel that way about the LoC faction, but that's just personal preference. I don't play them and instead stick to the factions I love. I get not wanting to see things in the game, but there's no version that will please everyone.

I have it on good authority that this here is a full list of future sets, figures and PP's plans for Monsterpocalypse.

I see what you did there... I hope your source is wrong.

[Rick Blaine]

In PP'd defense, -tThe Cthulhu mythos isn't really magic magic. It assumes that the universe is much too horrible for our little minds to properly comprehend, but all the weird stuff is really just advanced physics and biology. No different than an FTL drive in classic sci-fi.

[CovenantPhil]

The point was that someone might be just as opposed to a game with Cthulhu-esque creatures as they would be undead/magic/what-have-you.

[KevStormJ]

I still want monster babies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LHsSfSNyyM

[willpell]

i don't care what kind of undead things they are, i still hate the idea, if they did aliens that resemble undead things; i would hate the game less, i do not want ghosts the size of skyscrapers

Not even a Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man? The original concept of Ghostbusters was essentially for it to be a kaiju show where the team would fight giant ghosts all the time. You can read about it on Wikipedia. Also, when I hear the word "undead" I think of zombies and vampires long before I consider that it might mean ghosts, and I definitely think there would be a lot of interest in zombie Terra Khan or the like. If your dad quits over it, that's sad, but I think there will be a lot more people whose interest goes up than down, and its' been so long since any new MP came out that I won't be likely to complain no matter what it is (though I'm not in a huge hurry to buy either, considering I've already dropped about $1000 dollars and haven't played in like a year).

(and i will not tell anyone they should play or that the game exists-without zombies i will love playing, and i will tell everyone how awesome monpoc is-or privateer press can add zombies and ruin all interest i have and prevent many people from even knowing about the game- and many people from liking it because i'll probably tell them it is rubbish)

That would be extremely rude and immature - trying to stop other people from enjoying the game just because you, personally, don't care for it? You don't have to prosletyze if you don't want to, but if you don't like it then keep a civil tongue in your head.

so Privateer Press, please do not add zombies -some kids won't be ALLOWED to play because zombies are essentially walking gore -and besides; zombies versus godzilla things? =WHAT?!?!?

There's a little gore in the game already (take a look at those scratches on King Kondo's sides), and I doubt it'll get much worse if zombie monsters are added. Some kids won't be allowed to play anything that doesn't revolve around Bambi or Jesus; I fail to see that's the point. MP is a bit complicated to be a kids' game anyway; their target audience ought to range anywhere from 12 to 52.

(i have ALWAYS hated elemental champions-so have others i know) -if you noticed, the game got less popular after the new factions -including elemental champions -i am yt to meet anyone who likes them.

Well you have now; they are far and away my favorite faction. Calling Kaiju "science fiction" is pushing it in the first place, given how often the Square-Cube Law and similar inconvenient principles of physics, ecology, and so forth are casually disregarded, in the name of making possible a cool story or at least some awesome fight scenes. GUARD has giant humanoid robots, when if the actual world government wanted to defend humanity against giant dinosaurs they would just use tanks and missiles and fighter jets and nukes like they do IRL. Terra Khan is an impossible Lost World survivor, the Planet Eaters don't seem like they come from anything resembling a rational ecosystem, and obviously Martians are pure fantasy at this point given how many NASA rovers have landed on the Red Planet and suspiciously failed to find a civilization. On the flip side, the Elemental Champions are evocative of the idea that Shaolin Kung Fu can channel "subtle energies" that many Oriental religions believe actually exist IRL; tying this to the classic Elements of Miyamoto Musashi and claiming that a suit of armor can make a monk grow into a giant elemental monster - well, yes it's magic, but it's not a wizard in a pointy hat. The idea of "ki focus" is similar to the concept of psionics - something that blurs the line between sci-fi and fantasy, and largely exists in order to make something quasi-magical seem slightly less out of place in an ostensibly sci-fi setting.

[irnyst]

Ok, I really don't want to argue or anything, I just wanted to put a point towards some of the arguements against zombies. One of my favorite Kaiju movies is the one with the giant frankenstein's monster fighting nazis and other monsters (which actually the costume was originally supposed to be in the godzilla vs King Kong movie, but was removed before filming). And two, one of the first sci-fi books is arguably Modern Promethias (later to be called frankenstein) and the monster was a flesh golem, which for lack of a better comparison is a zombie.

On that note, I would love to see a seven sins based faction or even some other dark creatures from the abyss.

Also the elemental faction was magical

[VolkenVaderland]

Well, regardless if Cthul are considered magic or not-quite-understood bio/dimensional-science, it seems a lot of players have the perception that E.C. are "too magical" & against the existing spirit of the game. Point being this thread pops up more than once in various forums, and after it's debunked as not-quite-wizardry, people always feel the same way about EC.

Personally can't say magical unicorns will ruin the game for me (would enjoy punishing them ), unless the "magical" race has game-changing abilities which takes away the atmosphere of the game.
By that I mean the game is about two behemoths piledriving each other through buildings, with some shooting & excessive landscaping.
Sure there's telekinesis & other mystical abilities, but they generally only affect a single unit, or effect a minor buff/debuff. If, you however start making immaterial/inexplicable affects take over the game, it might change the visceral feel. Put simply, you could in your mind go: "Yeah, he just ran forward and shoulder-blocked your robot through that powerplant, just like in xxxxx movie I just saw", whereas twinkle-dust and invisible magics is a bit harder to envision at such a skyscraper scale. (Hope I'm making sense).

ps. Zombies are cool, but they never quite convey a sense of being collossi. And even if you can justify 1 monster being Frankenstein toghether from various corpses, it would be bit far-fetched to explain that every undead unit is the size of a house (standard units are fairly big already). And many of their typical abilities and flavour is already tied up with Cthul - sacrifices, vampirism, summoning, incubation, infecting other factions, etc.

But back to the original questions, I was also hoping for a 6th Planet Eater. Looove the look of them. Would love another. They just need to also round off the original 6 factions with another unit or two. I.e. something which fixes up the Planet Eater's slow units. Something that maybe gets the existing units into a frenzy, making them move faster/strike harder, maybe even something that makes them horde-like in that you kill one it only enrages the rest or gets some incubation-type effect, so that enough Planet Eaters can actually reach the enemy to cause damage. Something which makes the existing units more than just potential p-die for the enemy.
I say this of course, because at this point one can't necessarily re-balance any faction with ability-rules tweaks alone without nerfing balanced units of other factions.

[ElementalChumpion]

I've juuust gotten into Monsterpocalypse and I just can't get enough of it..... but from what I can tell is they are staying very true to the stereotypical monster movies / old fashion monster hunting type characters i grew up enjoying as a kid (Power Ranger, Super Human Samarai Cyber Squad ect) and I want more!

As for things like undead creatures and magic.... obviously its too late with the magic (Elemental Champions) but they've pulled it off pretty darn well. I could imagine an undead giant... mayhaps monsters of old that have been re-awakened by the monsterpocalypse or such things....

What I really want to see though is some semblance of series 6, and the DMZ's for set 2 with it. I see a pattern, Series 6 will likely be packed with the metamorphs, Tritons look like they are getting some sorta jellyfish (Awesome btw). Monkeys are appearantly getting a crazy laser ape, Insects look to be getting some crazy hulk think. Being an Elementals player myself I imagine we are going to get a metamorph consisting of 1 unit sized monster from each element and then the hyper form will be of the element of "Heaven" which hasn't been touched yet. and hopefully the units will include heaven units and top of the fire avatar and air avatar we are missing, but one can only hope!

I understand that legal issues with the movie company are impeding the release so lets hope Burton or whoever is involved gets the movie out for monsterpocalypse by the end of 2012!! which hopefully we will start seeing trailers for it by like... augest if we're lucky.

[ElementalChumpion]

OY! I like Elemental Champions. They are a fantastic team.

[ElementalChumpion]

about people who want undead stuff: REALLY?!?!?!, you probably have zombie games-play those, zombies do not need to be in EVERYTHING-this is a SCIENCE fiction, not a fantasy game-i hate how much undead stuff is used-aliens that apear someone zombie-like: *shrug*, okay, actual zombies: stupid -this is my reaction to zombies in monpoc, "elemental" magic monks was pushing it for me, undead stuff would just make me turn around and leave this game entirely, i started getting back into this game (after i stopped playing monpoc, started 40k, stopped 40k, restarted monpoc) i was thinking "you know, this game is not bad-it's just one slightly unfitting faction, i guess i'll keep playing" (i have ALWAYS hated elemental champions-so have others i know) -if you noticed, the game got less popular after the new factions -including elemental champions -i am yt to meet anyone who likes them.

OY! I like Elemental Champions. They are a fantastic team. (man I just can't win with thread posts these day, disregard previous "OY" post thank you.)

[el kid]

What if the zombies weren't generic zombies? What if they where the revived corpses of real heroes from around the world? Picture, if you will, a typical day in Detroit, MI during the Monsterpocalypse. The sun is shining, the birds are singing, and the people are running for their lives from the giant space monster currently devouring their city. GUARD and the Elemental Champions are busy fending off coordinated attacks by the Martian Menace and the Tritons; The Shadow Sun Syndicate and Ubercrop International are butting heads with the Lords of Cthul and the Subterran Uprising; and the Terrasaurs and the Empire of the Apes consider Detroit an urban blight best left to the gullets of the Planet Eaters. All hope seams lost until the monster is grabbed about his belly from behind, and then suplexed into and abandoned GM factory by none other than a GIANT ZOMBIE ABRAHAM LINCOLN. Meanwhile, St. Joan of Arc leads a ghostly army of knights, vikings, buccaneers, and Sherman Tanks in a counter attack against the ravenous hordes of extra-terrestrial beasts currently trying to consume the homes and flesh of their decedents. Laddies and Gentlemen, I give you the newest members of the Protectors Agenda, The Heroes of the Dead.

[insectasaur]

What if the zombies weren't generic zombies? What if they where the revived corpses of real heroes from around the world? Picture, if you will, a typical day in Detroit, MI during the Monsterpocalypse. The sun is shining, the birds are singing, and the people are running for their lives from the giant space monster currently devouring their city. GUARD and the Elemental Champions are busy fending off coordinated attacks by the Martian Menace and the Tritons; The Shadow Sun Syndicate and Ubercrop International are butting heads with the Lords of Cthul and the Subterran Uprising; and the Terrasaurs and the Empire of the Apes consider Detroit an urban blight best left to the gullets of the Planet Eaters. All hope seams lost until the monster is grabbed about his belly from behind, and then suplexed into and abandoned GM factory by none other than a GIANT ZOMBIE ABRAHAM LINCOLN. Meanwhile, St. Joan of Arc leads a ghostly army of knights, vikings, buccaneers, and Sherman Tanks in a counter attack against the ravenous hordes of extra-terrestrial beasts currently trying to consume the homes and flesh of their decedents. Laddies and Gentlemen, I give you the newest members of the Protectors Agenda, The Heroes of the Dead.

are you kidding me!?!?!?

that has got to be the most preposterous thing i've ever heard of.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/preposterous?s=t

i do not even care how (dead, rotting and rotted) abraham lincoln got to be 200 feet tall.
-also... your idea reminds me of somethingelse they put in the game called "shadow sun syndicate"

[Falgaia]

are you kidding me!?!?!?

that has got to be the most preposterous thing i've ever heard of.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/preposterous?s=t

i do not even care how (dead, rotting and rotted) abraham lincoln got to be 200 feet tall.
-also... your idea reminds me of somethingelse they put in the game called "shadow sun syndicate"

Hi everybody, posting in this forum for the first time in a whole year just to point out, once again, that the word "preposterous" does not exist in a fantasy environment. Have a nice day.

[jugglervr]

I still want monster babies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LHsSfSNyyM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5IMmgxtCYM

[Eldil]

-if you noticed, the game got less popular after the new factions -including elemental champions -i am yt to meet anyone who likes them.

I really like the new factions, especially the Elemental Champions. Though, admittedly, we've never met.

[titanmatrix]

i would like to ask some questions / state my opinion about the future of monpoc

1: what sort of new factions can we expect?

2: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE THE STRATEGY GUIDES, I WANT MORE STRAT GUIDES!!?!?!?

3: will we be getting DMZ packs and a two-player battle box for the new sets?

4: i would ask you guys at privateer press not to put magic/demons/undead in future sets-i simply think it does not fit in the theme-some people don't play games BECAUSE of that stuff by the way

5: i would like to see more civilian units

6: i would like to see character units for the original 6 factions

7: according to the planet eaters backstory there were "SIX gargantuan creatures with lesser minions" SIX! not FIVE! they need one more, PLEASE return to the original factions for a set so they can get another monster

8: when is the movie coming out?

9:when is series 6 coming out?

1. Likely none.
2. They kept having issues with them, including one instance where they got trapped in customs for weeks. They were discontinued after the first block.
3. We might? It depends how much inventory they actually have left and need to move. They recently threw the voltron kits down in price just to get rid of them. They are now out of print.
4.I'm not privateer, but the only factions I remember being rumoured for what WOULD have been block three included undead versions of monsters. But I don't think they ever got past the concept art stage so you are in luck, since there won't likely be a block 3, you won't have to see them. But it would have happened similar to how Ubercorp existed, The other two strongly hinted at by members of PP off the record as being factions were Dragons and 50-foot women.
5. They had more in store.
6. This door had been left open for a future flashback kit.
7. That was intentional, they had left the door open to do it one day but alas, it was not meant to be.
8. Likely never. The reality of these rights deals is that they are typically what is known as exclusive options, which means that for X period (usually 5 or 10 years) they are the only ones who can produce anything based on it and when it is going to expire they have the first opportunity to renew it. Now, this deal has been implied to be more complicated than that since it evidently stopped them from producing additional merchandise based on the property (but not stopping the sale of existing pieces). However, after this much time, it is very unlikely that anything is going to happen.
9. After Privateer has full control of the rights of the property they might release a series 6. It's also possible that it just wasn't performing up to expectations and they let it quietly die without officially confirming it so that if it's still an option for dreamworks they would be more inclined to produce the movie than if PP said it's dead. If you were a movie studio would you rather make a movie based on a hibernating property or a property that is dead?



Lastly, I'd love to hear what makes anyone think there is still a movie coming? The best that can be determined is that the studio secured the rights, but still hasn't even hired writers to come up with a script. And depending on the length of the option, it could be 10 years from the announcement before Privateer does anything with the property again, though my understanding is that it wasn't anywhere near profitable and any future instance won't be the same format at all.



Lastly I don't work for Privateer or Dreamworks but I am a media analyst and if something was in the works on dreamworks part they would have actually had said something about it by now.

[jugglervr]

Lastly, I'd love to hear what makes anyone think there is still a movie coming? The best that can be determined is that the studio secured the rights, but still hasn't even hired writers to come up with a script. And depending on the length of the option, it could be 10 years from the announcement before Privateer does anything with the property again

John august was attached to write it, and blogged about being excited to be writing the script, both out loud, and in coded language (such as a blog post in which he tried to crowd-source the number of deep-space monitoring stations that would be needed to detect hostile alien incursions).
http://johnaugust.com/projects/monsterpocalypse

Tim Burton was supposedly attached to produce and/or direct, though it was rumored to be a toss-up between this and Dark Shadows. Guess which won.

However, Steven Spielberg is doing Robopocalypse. Spielberg is closely tied to Dreamworks, so it's likely that they optioned Monsterpocalypse and tied down new product so that nobody makes another 'pocalypse movie until after Robopocalypse is out of the picture (or perhaps forever, if they decide to do a robopocalypse sequel).

So, don't count on a movie. It's just as well, because the script was starting to sound like the plot of the awful comic books.

Lastly I don't work for...

not sure you know what "lastly" means... ;D

oh hold up, just saw this, completely missed it the first dozen times i read through john august's blog:
"It doesn’t have to be 20 pages. For Monsterpocalypse, I shared the first act. For Preacher, it was 45 pages. In both cases, enthusiastic feedback gave me a nice bounce of energy to help me finish."
hinting that the script is finished. doesn't mean it'll get made, of course.

[insectasaur]

look guys, i want to hear what privateer press has to say-not what random people think they have to say ok.

[Rick Blaine]

look guys, i want to hear what privateer press has to say-not what random people think they have to say ok.

PP will either tell us or they won't. You asking them will make absolutely no difference either way.

[Mod_Donaldbain]

Best to email PP customer service directly, then. A forum, by definition, is a bunch of random people.

[insectasaur]

Best to email PP customer service directly, then. A forum, by definition, is a bunch of random people.

what is their email address?

[Mod_Donaldbain]

http://privateerpress.com/contact