My First Circle Steamroller 50pts

[alec]

It's not exactly ideal for my first steamroller to be 50pts with Circle, but my usually FLGS does a steamroller one month and then an odd tournament format the next month, and this month they're doing a stampede. So I found a steamroller nearby but it's 50pts, an army size I'm not yet comfortable playing Circle with yet. These are my best two ideas for lists and they use every model I own for Circle, so it'll be difficult to change them too much. What I'm looking for is more "do this with them" or "these guys work with them well" etc. So, any advice, experience, stories of victory, etc. are welcomed:

Kromac the Ravenous (*4pts)
* Ghetorix (11pts)
* Pureblood Warpwolf (9pts)
* Warpwolf Stalker (10pts)
Shifting Stones (2pts)
* Stone keeper (1pts)
Tharn Bloodtrackers (Leader and 9 Grunts) (8pts)
* Nuala the Huntress (2pts)
Warpborn Skinwalkers (Leader and 4 Grunts) (8pts)
Druid Wilder (2pts)
Feralgeist (1pts)



Kaya the Moonhunter & Laris (*3pts)
* Feral Warpwolf (9pts)
* Pureblood Warpwolf (9pts)
* Warpwolf Stalker (10pts)
Druids of Orboros (Leader and 5 Grunts) (7pts)
* Druid of Orboros Overseer (2pts)
Shifting Stones (2pts)
* Stone keeper (1pts)
Tharn Bloodtrackers (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
Warpborn Skinwalkers (Leader and 4 Grunts) (8pts)

[VagrantPoet]

Skinwalkers with Kromac aren't great. They don't kill much and they just get in the way.

Kromac wants swamp gobbers a lot more than a feralgeist.

I would suggest dropping the skinwalkers for a gorax, who should be an auto include at 50 points really. Then you have 4 points left over. I would also drop the feralgeist and throw in a unit of woldstalkers.

Kaya is not a good pair up with Kromac, they do the same things, and are often beaten by the same things.

If your going to play her list, thought you seem to favor the Kromac one, you should either go tier or not. Dropping the bloodtrackers for a gorax, you become tier 4, and actually have 4 points left over. That's a second unit of stones and a wilder. Another consideration is dropping the skinwalkers to minimum and dropping the Shifting stones ua for a gnarlhorn. Threat boosting, a great late game beast with primal/forced evo, and kaya won't ever really use the stones to teleport.

[Snowmelter]

Skinwalkers were good with Kromac, now we have Ghetorix and he wants the +2ARM even more than the skinwalkers. Otherwise I agree with V-Poet.