Menoth vs Cryx help...for the Cryx
So, me and my friend both just started playing, we both have 35 points, me Menoth, he Cryx. We have played four games so far and I have destroyed him each time. Here are the lists,
the 4 point melee Bonejack X2
Full Bane with UA
Full Errant UA
There does not seem to be anything he can do, pretty much my entire army is immune to spells and I screen the things that are not so he cant shoot and miss with templates., book makes knock down impossible. With DF and Eye of Menoth my Errants have been beating his Banes. He tried altering his list a bit by adding Pistol Wraiths but that game went only a little better for him. Any tips on how he can beat me?
He need to use a caster that doesn't need a lot of spells to win. Like Goreshade or Terminus. To be fair pSevvy is the best anti Cryx caster so it will be very hard for him anyway.
What is he setting as his Nightmare's prey target usually? Against such a list (I play Cryx as well as Menoth) the Errants should be his first target as they are your screening unit correct? I usually Perry whatever will be out front, and then I can either target them for death, or just use them to slingshot into a better target. The speed buff to Prey doesn't require you to target the prey to still be there, and he can use it to get surprising distances to other targets.
He can always, in a pinch, sacrifice something of his own to act as a target for the Venom spray. Since spells aren't as potent against your list, I'd use Deathripper A (the arc nodes) as a mobile target for Deathripper B to slingshot spells into you with. Its defense is high enough that missing his own model is also possible in this situation. And if he can Venom the Covenant at least once, Corrosion will help to remove it faster.
I'm guessing that the Vanquisher is doing most of the Bane Thrall killing? Another use for the Deathrippers will be to engage him on the turn they enter his fire zone. Remember that he can run 14 inches, and doesn't need to attack to be considered engaging a model. Then once he has engaged his thralls with your army, you will probably be thinking twice about shooting at them. Again, don't be afraid to target your own models in order to throw those sprays into the enemy. He has tough, you do not. =)
Its partly that he has a bad match up unfortunately, but its not unbeatable! If he keeps at it, eventually you to shall be cursing Cryx
Thanks, these are all very good, and will bring them up. He has been toying around with cutting the Nightmare to a slayer and maybe dropping a node so that he can add in two Pistol Wraiths, and has been toying with the idea of buying (IRL) two Warwitch Sirens. Any thoughts on this?
Originally Posted by Mathai
Edit: Also, is all of menoth hard for all of Cryx? or is it just that the two casters being used is rough for Denny?
In fact the opposite. Normally Cryx is very hard for anyone but Severius. Harbringer also has a good shot vs Cryx. Aside from these two Protectorate hasnt much answers to Cryx. And perhaps Severius with Rhoven is the only caster that can beat eAsph.
Interesting, looking at his book I am liking eGaspy, he looks very scary. And is Sevvy so good against Cryx because of all his buffs, and the fact he is spell immune or is there more that I am not seeing?
No because he can disable spell casting for 1 turn. For faction that relies on spells this is a major blow. For example with right timed feat he can prevent eAsph from casting clouds and possibly kill him in next turn while he is on 0 focus.
Yeah, one game I played I Feated, messed up alot of things, then moved my book and used the 10" no spell zone. It was a brutal two rounds for him. I also own Harbinger, I will do the next few games with her instead, maybe those games will be funner for him :P