Reznik heavy hitters list - 35 pts

[LordRavurion]

I have recieved 2 2 player battleboxes in the mail (finally). Now I am trying to figurte out how I want to use the jacks and the units.

I was thinking of a list consisting of a couple heavy units and a couple jacks, supported with choir. Something along the following lines:

Reznik
- Templar
- Crusader
- Crusader
Choir (min)
cinerators (max)
bastions (max) (might change this to bastions)
vassal of menoth
wracks

This list might have some trouble against some lists, but it is designed to have some solid meleecapability on a limited number of attacks. It is also designed to not go down to a single lucky hit. Reznik looked most appropriate for a list like this, but it could also work with severius (although he likes an arcnode) and maybe pkreoss (def ward and knockdowns on feat).

So what are your thoughts about this list or a list like this??

[andrewbwm]

bastions (max) (might change this to bastions)

Did you mean you would replace the Cinerators with Bastions or the Bastions with Cinerators? If you replace the Bastions with Cinerators you get a Tier 1 Reznik list. That makes Reckoners 7 points.

I don't think those Crusaders are really worth it, let alone two of them. My advice is to try to get a Reckoner in and maybe a Vanquisher too. That will however make things a tad more complicated for the Vassal, who does he stick with, but I presume you can chose depeding on the match up, move him around a bit.

[LordRavurion]

correct meant second cinerators and might change it to bastions.

I do not own any reckoners yet and I won't for some time. Cashflow being te main problem. I am therefore trying to figure out how to go about an army with stuff I have. I also thought vanquishers instead of crusaders, but that is another 4 points...

other caster that might be able to run a list like this, designed around 3 heavys and some heavy infantry??

[Commander Vimes]

Vanquishers > Crusaders

[andrewbwm]

correct meant second cinerators and might change it to bastions.

I'd recommend a unit of each, just for the fun of it.

I do not own any reckoners yet and I won't for some time. Cashflow being te main problem. I am therefore trying to figure out how to go about an army with stuff I have. I also thought vanquishers instead of crusaders, but that is another 4 points...

You can keep a Crusader and get only one Vanquisher in, 2 might be a bit of overkill, or it might be just me. I don't like doubling any jack or unit, the only stuff I ever take twice is Vassal and/or Mechanik.

other caster that might be able to run a list like this, designed around 3 heavys and some heavy infantry??

I think pSevvy, pKreoss and Harby can all handle it. Do you have any Errants?
Still Reznik might still be worth it, you can just try them all out until you get some more stuff, get more familiar with the casters and all of that.

[wazatdingder]

Vanquishers > Crusaders

Then your sig is wrong

[mactac]

Crusaders make for great absorbing charges and what not. Because with Reznik they are still menacing if your throw iron aggression on them

[macgowan]

Is there a good reason NOT to run Avatar? He's ridiculous with Iron Aggression. Or am I missing something?

[jandrese]

IMHO, Iron Aggression is kind of wasted on the Avatar. It already has sky high MAT with Choir support. The Free Charge can help overcome a poor focus roll, but that's basically once per game. Something like a Reckoner gets a lot more mileage out of Iron Aggression, because the free charge == free gunshot, and its MAT is merely high, not crazy high with choir help. Without choir help, Iron Aggression is even more valuable, since MAT 6 is pretty mediocre and you may want to boost a lot.

That said, Reznik is always focus starved and loves the Avatar, but he really doesn't do anything for it.

[Wulfy]

Consider borrowing money to get the Reckoners, 3 Reckoners > 1 templar, 2 crusaders, wrack. Just saying. Or make this battle group for a different warcaster, you are just going to wish you had reckoners.

[l)ruchii]

eFeora would probably perform well with that list (provided switch to vanquishers) Escort is amazing, and she still has ignite to bounce around. If you do go to vanquishers a second vassal might be nice (I know you're already tight for point though!)

[Pixl]

IMHO, Iron Aggression is kind of wasted on the Avatar. It already has sky high MAT with Choir support. The Free Charge can help overcome a poor focus roll, but that's basically once per game. Something like a Reckoner gets a lot more mileage out of Iron Aggression, because the free charge == free gunshot, and its MAT is merely high, not crazy high with choir help. Without choir help, Iron Aggression is even more valuable, since MAT 6 is pretty mediocre and you may want to boost a lot.

That said, Reznik is always focus starved and loves the Avatar, but he really doesn't do anything for it.

Unless you want to hit bobbling winterguard with iron flesh on then free boosted rolls are nice. Or hit any other thing with 16+ (well 14+ with choir buff) def realiable. The free charge is nice even when you roll full focus at it means you get more attacks, good for charging heavy stuff.

I do agree that the reckoner is awesome with IA on, but then again when is the reckoner not nice XD


As for the list, I don't think I ever ran more then 2 jacks with reznik actually so it is hard to say for me.
Not sure i would run two mid based units with him at all. But if you want to use cinerators and you got a T1 list and can place your wracks further up if nothing else.


Pesonaly I dont like to have a jack that dont have two CC weapons (to make most use out of iron agression) but with 3 jacks it might be worth it so you can upkeep IA on one crusader and then cast it on the other after the first charges...while the vanquisher can stand back and shoot...kind of have to try it out now