Hi guys, I recently picked up the battle box + agonizer + paingiver beast handlers and have played about 8 or so games so far. I'd like to give you the basic rundown of how I usually play out my rounds and see if you can give me some advice because I just don't see how this team can get to the other caster. I'm having issues. Maybe you can help...
We don't use terrain and I'm playing against both horde and warmachine.
1st round usually involves me running out as fast as I can. I cast admonition on the Titan and maybe the Cyclops Savage. I try and give the rest of my fury to the agonizer thinking it may be my only chance to give him some. I usually move each of them out about 10 inches in a nice straight line with the paingivers a few inches behind each Warbeast. My question here is should I be casting different spells on them as they go out? Today, while I was thinking about new strategies, I thought maybe I should enrage them and use Rush to get them out into the field farther and quicker. Not sure if this is a good move but one I'm willing to try. This first round is basically me just moving them out as far as they can to prepare for round two. Can you fellow players give me a normal first round of what you guys do?
2nd round usually involves me Rushing and Slamming the biggest guy within range of my titan. I usually dont kill whatever I'm going after because it's just as big as I am. I also run with the Cyclops Savages and engage in some combat there. This locks up each of the three warbeasts. Again, I'll try to keep the Paingivers close behind. Next I'll try and move my caster up to keep my Command Range in check. Ok, so again, I might kill one or two guys but it doesn't feel like I'm doing any major damage here. Also, my opponents round two usually wipes up my guys if they are within range. I might survive if they get some bad rolls. What I was thinking today for this one was to keep one of the Savages back a little bit to protect my caster more but then I'm thinking I shouldn't do that because we're Skorne and we should bring the fight to them. Another question is should I try and position myself so I can go for a caster kill with my castor or should I be protecting my castor while getting someone else to do the work? Is it okay to move one of the warbeasts out of range of the castor and just accept that I'll need to do a threshhold check next round? Finally, I know every situation is differnt but what spells do you find yourself using from Morghoul in this second round? I think I'm usually going with abuse to get the warbeast out.
3rd round usually involves me engages with all enemies from the opposing side. I'm usually locked up so bad I just can't seem to create an opening. Does anyone ever throw with the Titan to make room? That's one thing that I think I could have tried in one game to try and create a path but I didn't. I think another thing I read today was to use admonition just so you could move the warbeasts back three inches so they could charge/slam next round. Is this normal?
I guess my main question is what do you guys usually finding yourselves doing in these first few rounds? Do you keep Morghoul safe in the back or do you get him into the action with the other guys? I've been playing really carefully with Morghoul and keeping him away from all bad guys so much I'm thinking maybe it's better to get him in there to kill stuff to make room for someone who can perform a castor kill.
It's a little frustrating because I keep thinking I'm doing stuff wrong and getting locked down so bad that I must be playing the wrong way. Dont' get me wrong, I'm still having fun because after it's over, I want to play another round and try another set of ideas. Should I move all warbeasts forward as quickly as possible or leave one back with the castor? Which model do you find usually kills the other players castor in 15 point games? Are there spells that you find really valuable in 15 point matches? ANother thing is that I don't find this castor that valuable but the threads usually say this is one of the better ones. How is he usually played?
I know I've asked a lot and I'm basically looking for some general tips. Before you ask, yes I've read the Skorne Tactics Compilation links and I've read about my different models. I know I'm still learning and it takes time and all that. Thankfully I'm playing with a great group of guys that are still learning with me.