Anyone tried Wishnailer with eMagnus?

[PG_Ironmonger]

What is says on the tin. I've been looking at eMagnus and Wishnailer and thinking that they're a match made in... well, not Urcaen, but I think that eMagnus could benefit all around from the extensions and upkeep that 'nailer could give.

Thoughts?

[pattison]

eMags tend to end up short on focus so yup.
Too bad Hippsaddle's not allowed in Bad Seeds.

[moddball]

I have been using Hip Saddle and Wrong Eye with Epic Magnus. Has really helped me, I don't play bad seeds so have been working on my 4* lists. Anything to take the presure off the low focus helps.

[hardygun]

Whyshnalyr? does work well with eMagnus. The free upkeep helps his focus issues and the extra die, drop the lowest makes it more cost effective to toss Calamity at things you want to die. It also makes Obliteration a more feasible option as well. The range enhancement is the only part that is meh with eMagnus, because he has arc nodes. On the flip side you can use the range enhancement to justify not bringing a Renegade.

[wazatdingder]

Is there anyone that does not like him?

[Fullmetal_]

I have been using Hip Saddle and Wrong Eye with Epic Magnus. Has really helped me, I don't play bad seeds so have been working on my 4* lists. Anything to take the presure off the low focus helps.

This is what I want to try. WE & S tend to be well protected enough for the Lesser Warlock to be less of a liability. I too am working on Bad Seeds, which has different provisions for saving Focus (Rangers, Trencher Master Gunner), though the extra dice (discarding lowest) on Calamity is missing.

Which jacks do you go with? Two Renegades? Renegade and Nomad?

[John of Arc]

He is AWESOME with eMagnus, just like with basically every merc caster. He doesn't need the extra spell range, but the free upkeep allows you to use Bullet Dodger without being cramped for focus, plus some other options with Calamity the turn after you cast it. The offensive boost is a huge deal, since it usually means you don't need to boost to hit with Calamity, and it makes Convection a more credible threat. It makes Obliteration a MUCH more powerful, dealing the equivalent of a POW 16-17 on a direct hit, and POW 9-10 blast damage. That's a big deal, capable of killing medium infantry like bane thralls and exemplars with ease. Off topic, but I like bringing Reinholdt along as well. Two scattergun shots under Calamity will WASTE infantry.

[lastspartacus]

Magnus only has one upkeep, and its a take it or leave it one. But keeping it for free is always handy. The main thing wishnailer gives of course is making Calamity much more viable. I guess the extra range helps if you for some reason aren't using renegades or they are dead.

[pRophaniti1978]

Eh? Bullet Dodger and Calamity are both upkeeps, or were you making a point? I realise you don't often get the opportunity to upkeep calamity due to the target being dead though.

[PG_vytzka]

Calamity might as well not be an upkeep, I don't think I have ever upkept it. If you blow your almost entire wad on a damage buff and can't even kill the target until the next turn chances are you might never do so.

Not that it's needed for Wishnailer to help it big time, of course. And free Bullet Dodger is like a breath of fresh air.

[lastspartacus]

Heh, Forgot about Calamity being an upkeep

[John of Arc]

I've upkept Calamity once or twice, usually in Mangled Metal- pin them down with your feat, next turn alpha strike them with 4 focus and +2 to hit and damage. It doesn't come up very often, but sometimes you can arc it onto something before you're ready to charge.

That being said, I still think its best use is helping Halberdiers and ranged units kill things, and that upkeeping it doesn't come into play very often.

[cannonball]

A useful thing to do if they have tough unit and its taking you a few turns to chew through them.

Also the upkeep allows you to one turn cast it on a unit (elf helps you make it hit), pop feat to keep the unit in place then next turn you can upkeep for free and cast Obliteration on them with the DEF and ARM debuff plus have the elf give you a mini Signs and Portents to make it hit sans the focus to hit due to the debuff and you make those blast damage rolls hit above average.

Takes some planning but whenever isn't eMagnus not a planning caster?

[John of Arc]

Almost like he had some sort of planning based spell in Mk. I, like, say, Lethargy... ;D

[cannonball]

They were the days.